ThermoChill HE120.1 vs. DTEK JR-120

superart · 12-02-2003, 01:55 PM

Can someone tell me the difference between the ThermoChill HE120.1 and the DTEK JR-120?

I realize that the ThermoChill has that shroud thing that makes it easier to mount, but is that the only thing that warrents the price premium? It is about twice as expensive as the DTEK model.

I am on a pretty tihght budget, so I appreciate any response.

Thanks.

BrianW · 12-02-2003, 09:38 PM

Go with the D-Tek imo. I have it's big brother, and it is a great radiator for my system. With the D-Tek shroud(s), you will get better fan performance than you will with the HE120.1 integrated shroud system. Although the HE120.1 is sharp, and I like the idea of female npt adapters instead of hose barbs. This allows you to configure it multiple ways...

Brian

superart · 12-03-2003, 09:00 AM

well, I was going to make my own custom shroud regardless, like how #rotor did in his article.

superart · 12-03-2003, 09:01 AM

Also, how does the BIX2 compare, since thats also a single 120 fan?

BrianW · 12-03-2003, 07:52 PM

If you are building your shroud, and want the best performer, I would go with Dtek...

Brian

superart · 12-03-2003, 08:02 PM

Thanks for the help.

But what makes one radiator better than another? It seems like they are both the same. Both are set up to hold 1 120 fan, both are copper, both are 100% copper construction.

Thanks, I appreciate it.

Lothar5150 · 12-11-2003, 12:53 PM

superart -A DTek radiator is not going to perform better than a standard AutoZone Chevette Heater Core because they are essentially the same. The only benefit is the added barbs, which may be a huge deal for some.

Really from physics stand point surface area is one the biggest factors involved in heat convection. Theoretically the DTek Jr core should have more surface are because it is thicker and has more total surface area. However there are a few other factors involved in heat convection that could affect the cores efficiency.

The bottom line is that unless someone has actual run a real world test with both I’m not sure how anyone could say one is better performing than the other.

By the way I would save yourself the money and go with the coolingworks shourd and a heater core.

Hellion_Prime · 12-11-2003, 04:57 PM

I'd just get the standard normal heatercore and solder on my own NPT connectors, but thats just me. Here's what I did:

I cut off the stock barbs, and soldered on the NPT adapters using 1/2" copper couplers to attach them.

Halo_Master · 12-11-2003, 06:53 PM

What kind of heatercore is that and is there enough surface for 2 fans?

superart · 12-11-2003, 08:54 PM

Yea, i considdered that, but I have neather the ability nor the tools to solder pipes.

However, I guesse I could go down to the campus machine shop and get some help there.

But what heatercore can you recomend that is about the size of 1 12o fan?

Lothar5150 · 12-11-2003, 09:54 PM

'86 Chevette no air-conditioning

kai · 12-11-2003, 11:43 PM

I dont know if it depends on tubing but my hose fit over the barbs already on the chevette heatercore i bought , going on 3 years ago , My hose is silicon though i dont know if tygon or clearflex would do the same. I hope it does because i want to redo my system with that hose , i guess i could make an adapter with silicon if it doesnt.

Hellion_Prime · 12-12-2003, 11:35 AM

Halo Master: I'm not sure what the model number is. I'd have to hit the heatercore database and look. I'll see if I can figure out which one it is after I get home from work.

superart: its really not all that hard to solder. That was my first attempt, and it went fairly well. Picked up a propane torch and the fittings from home depot, some solder and flux then went to town. I wish more vendors offered rads with NPT fittings stock tho, it would certainly make it easier.

kusojiji · 12-15-2003, 01:26 AM

The results from the testing done at thermal management for the thermochill radiators and their previous radiator tests used different methods and the results have different values. But, if the thermochill is just a bit better than the BIX, it still wouldn't measure up to the big momma, which is similar to the dtek core.

12-02-2003, 01:55 PM	#1
superart Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: FL Posts: 787	ThermoChill HE120.1 vs. DTEK JR-120 Can someone tell me the difference between the ThermoChill HE120.1 and the DTEK JR-120? I realize that the ThermoChill has that shroud thing that makes it easier to mount, but is that the only thing that warrents the price premium? It is about twice as expensive as the DTEK model. I am on a pretty tihght budget, so I appreciate any response. Thanks. __________________ When you do things right, people won't be sure youv'e done anything at all. Looking to buy/trade for used Deep Fryer and Vacume Pack Sealer.

12-02-2003, 09:38 PM	#2
BrianW Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Desert City in California Posts: 631	Go with the D-Tek imo. I have it's big brother, and it is a great radiator for my system. With the D-Tek shroud(s), you will get better fan performance than you will with the HE120.1 integrated shroud system. Although the HE120.1 is sharp, and I like the idea of female npt adapters instead of hose barbs. This allows you to configure it multiple ways... Brian __________________ Water Cooled Inwin Q500 (Dual Rads: Rad1 = DTEK Pro Core \| Rad2 = Blick Ice Estreme, Hydor L30, Dangerden Maze2, Bay Res Typhoon Reservoir, 1/2 " DD Tygon Thick Wall Hose). Flow: Res, Pump, CPU watervlock, Y into both rads, both rads into res independently. Athlon XP 1800+ (@ 1731 - 150mhz fsb.), on a Asus A7N266-c, and a Radeon 9000 *waiting for RMA'd Saphire 9800 ultra from Newegg)

12-03-2003, 09:00 AM	#3
superart Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: FL Posts: 787	well, I was going to make my own custom shroud regardless, like how #rotor did in his article. __________________ When you do things right, people won't be sure youv'e done anything at all. Looking to buy/trade for used Deep Fryer and Vacume Pack Sealer.

12-03-2003, 09:01 AM	#4
superart Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: FL Posts: 787	Also, how does the BIX2 compare, since thats also a single 120 fan? __________________ When you do things right, people won't be sure youv'e done anything at all. Looking to buy/trade for used Deep Fryer and Vacume Pack Sealer.

12-03-2003, 07:52 PM	#5
BrianW Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Desert City in California Posts: 631	If you are building your shroud, and want the best performer, I would go with Dtek... Brian __________________ Water Cooled Inwin Q500 (Dual Rads: Rad1 = DTEK Pro Core \| Rad2 = Blick Ice Estreme, Hydor L30, Dangerden Maze2, Bay Res Typhoon Reservoir, 1/2 " DD Tygon Thick Wall Hose). Flow: Res, Pump, CPU watervlock, Y into both rads, both rads into res independently. Athlon XP 1800+ (@ 1731 - 150mhz fsb.), on a Asus A7N266-c, and a Radeon 9000 *waiting for RMA'd Saphire 9800 ultra from Newegg)

12-03-2003, 08:02 PM	#6
superart Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: FL Posts: 787	Thanks for the help. But what makes one radiator better than another? It seems like they are both the same. Both are set up to hold 1 120 fan, both are copper, both are 100% copper construction. Thanks, I appreciate it. __________________ When you do things right, people won't be sure youv'e done anything at all. Looking to buy/trade for used Deep Fryer and Vacume Pack Sealer.

12-11-2003, 12:53 PM	#7
Lothar5150 Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Surf City USA Posts: 433	superart -A DTek radiator is not going to perform better than a standard AutoZone Chevette Heater Core because they are essentially the same. The only benefit is the added barbs, which may be a huge deal for some. Really from physics stand point surface area is one the biggest factors involved in heat convection. Theoretically the DTek Jr core should have more surface are because it is thicker and has more total surface area. However there are a few other factors involved in heat convection that could affect the cores efficiency. The bottom line is that unless someone has actual run a real world test with both I’m not sure how anyone could say one is better performing than the other. By the way I would save yourself the money and go with the coolingworks shourd and a heater core.

12-11-2003, 04:57 PM	#8
Hellion_Prime Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Arlington, MA, US Posts: 90	I'd just get the standard normal heatercore and solder on my own NPT connectors, but thats just me. Here's what I did: I cut off the stock barbs, and soldered on the NPT adapters using 1/2" copper couplers to attach them. __________________ That which does not kill me had BETTER do enough damage to keep me from firing back!

12-11-2003, 06:53 PM	#9
Halo_Master Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Netherlands Posts: 44	What kind of heatercore is that and is there enough surface for 2 fans? __________________ Intel PIV 3200@3840 DFI Lanparty pro875B 1024mb(2x512) ocz pc3700EB(2.5-2-2-5) Lian Li pc6070B Ati Radeon X800XT PE creative audigy 2 Silicon Graphics F180 (18,1 inch TFT) and nec-mitsubischi 930sb(black) jpiperformance V5 external watercooling(black) containing: -iwaki md20R -2x xlr120 rads -swiftech mcw6002

12-11-2003, 08:54 PM	#10
superart Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: FL Posts: 787	Yea, i considdered that, but I have neather the ability nor the tools to solder pipes. However, I guesse I could go down to the campus machine shop and get some help there. But what heatercore can you recomend that is about the size of 1 12o fan? __________________ When you do things right, people won't be sure youv'e done anything at all. Looking to buy/trade for used Deep Fryer and Vacume Pack Sealer.

12-11-2003, 09:54 PM	#11
Lothar5150 Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Surf City USA Posts: 433	'86 Chevette no air-conditioning

12-11-2003, 11:43 PM	#12
kai Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: blah Posts: 35	I dont know if it depends on tubing but my hose fit over the barbs already on the chevette heatercore i bought , going on 3 years ago , My hose is silicon though i dont know if tygon or clearflex would do the same. I hope it does because i want to redo my system with that hose , i guess i could make an adapter with silicon if it doesnt.

12-12-2003, 11:35 AM	#13
Hellion_Prime Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Arlington, MA, US Posts: 90	Halo Master: I'm not sure what the model number is. I'd have to hit the heatercore database and look. I'll see if I can figure out which one it is after I get home from work. superart: its really not all that hard to solder. That was my first attempt, and it went fairly well. Picked up a propane torch and the fittings from home depot, some solder and flux then went to town. I wish more vendors offered rads with NPT fittings stock tho, it would certainly make it easier. __________________ That which does not kill me had BETTER do enough damage to keep me from firing back!

12-15-2003, 01:26 AM	#14
kusojiji Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Japan Posts: 86	The results from the testing done at thermal management for the thermochill radiators and their previous radiator tests used different methods and the results have different values. But, if the thermochill is just a bit better than the BIX, it still wouldn't measure up to the big momma, which is similar to the dtek core.

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