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Unread 03-06-2004, 06:36 AM   #1
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Hello lads.

This is my first post here, and I want to ask one thing that i am not very sure about.

I currently have a MCW50+WW and a BIX.

With this radiator, would it be possible for me, by using a DELTA or YS-TECH fan of about 150CFM's handle the heat load of the 80w pelt of the VPU block?

I am planning, then, on running a WW, the MCW50-T and the BIX with a 150 CFM fan, pumped by a MCP600.

If not, which other things can I do, for example, buying a BIX2? Because I have a Coolermaster ATC-201 custom modified to house the BIX and it takes much space, so imagine a BIX2...

Thank you very much for your help.

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Unread 03-06-2004, 12:09 PM   #2
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You might get away with it if you use a fan on bothe sides of the radiator (one suck one blow). You should also mount the fans with a spacer tunnel and never directly against the object to cool (make your own spacer tunnel if necessary!).

For a 120mm fan then there should be a space of at least 1.5 inches between it and the radiator (2-inches+ would be better).
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Thanks for answering.

Are you talking about shrouding the BIX.

Because instead of that, if it is going to be a pain in the ass, i prefer buying a BIX2 and loosing some space in favour of the cooling.

Please, if there is anyone with a similar setup please tell me if it possible, because after looking at HWLabs, the rad theroically can handle the heat load of many 80w pelts. The other question is: If I am sticking with the BIX, would it be better 2x120x25 or 1x120x38 on top?

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Hi,

I guess you call it a fan-shroud? I call it an extender-tunnel or spacer-tunnel. It simply puts a space between the fan and the radiator to counter the effects of the fan's deadzone (the central motor core of the fan).

Re: your choice of radiator..

Those 150CFM fans will be noisy won't they? I think it's essential to have a fan-throttle system (I use the Vantec Nexus because it can power many large fans!). You don't always need the rad-fans blowing at high-speed.

The bottom line though is - if you don't add that tunnel between the fans and rad, then you won't get max performance from the rad.
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Thanks for answering.

So, the question is:

I'm deciding on mounting the BIX2, but, one question:

Is it better to mount 120x120x25 with shroud or 120x120x38 without shroud?

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Does anyones know if my current BIX with proper fans could handle my P4C 3.o GHz plus the MCW50-T with OC in both of them pumped by a MCP600???

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Does anyones know if my current BIX with proper fans could handle my P4C 3.o GHz plus the MCW50-T with OC in both of them pumped by a MCP600???

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No, 2 x 120mm Fan RAD woud be a better choice.

Lets talk about your current BIX. If you decide to stick with it and do a push/pull for the fans, first of all the noise will be Very Very loud. A Delta 150CFM! that's like what 50~60dB per Fan. The mcw50-t + the Gpu itself would be producing 110~130Watt of heat. add the WB heat also. Don't forget your ambient Temp in important too.

About Shrouds: To have max. effect for the fans you'll need a Fan shroud with a push/pull config(one sucking and one blowing). The shroud hight(gap btw fan and Rad) will depend on your fan hight(thickness). a rule of thumb would be,
- For the pushing side 5 x Fan hight(thickness) and
- Pulling side 3 x Fan hight(thickness).
So get a 2 x 120mm RAD. I have tried the BIX2 and find it quite restrictive. SS4(silverstorm4) is better compared to it IMO. Thermochill RADs are better. Here's the Review from Overclockers.com. Less flow restrictive.
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