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General Liquid/Water Cooling Discussion For discussion about Full Cooling System kits, or general cooling topics. Keep specific cooling items like pumps, radiators, etc... in their specific forums. |
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Cooling Neophyte
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Hello. I'm new here. I joined so I could discuss some water cooling with people who actually know from experience. What better place than ProCooling forums. I have started a thread over at another forum HERE as a worklog. I purchased a 1986 Chevy Caprice heatercore yesterday and now I am trying to decide which pump I want to go with. I have a ton of photos and stuff over at that forum if you want to see what I am working with so far. I am interested in a VIA Aqua 2600. They have a rated flow rate of around 740 GPH with max head at 6.5 feet. I am wondering if this would be too powerful for my set up or would it be great? I am a total n00b here so I have no real experience with this. I see alot of people using 340 GPH pumps. I am going to be cooling my CPU, GPU and Northbridge. I will most likely make a custom res or use a RC airplane gastank for a res. I am going with 1/2inch ID tubing. I would like to hear peoples comments and suggestions before I go any further. I will continue to read through the forums for information, I have already learned alot from trolling around here. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Thermophile
Join Date: May 2001
Location: UK
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With a max head of 6.5 feet I don't think too much power is going to be a worry.
Most pumps for watercooling have a head of at least 6 feet, many significantly more, and max head is the more interesting figure. To use an analagy, it's a bit like a porche and a truck - the porche goes really fast, but put a load on it and you're screwed. The truck is slow, but you can pull several tons. Your waterblock is that several ton load. ![]()
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Cooling Neophyte
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Cool, but I am asking this because I want to be more informed on what this 740 GPH means. If my blocks are the several ton load, then will I be hurting the pump but restricting such force? If I were to use a smaller pump would that be better for the life of the pump, meaning I dont want to burn out a stronger pump by restricting it too much or will I be better off using the stronger pump because it will work just fine even when restricted?
And does anyone know anything about these VIA's? I have heard mized reviews, but nothing terrible. In fact I hear for the price they are really good. So what gives? Also does anyone know where I can get one of these White Water CPU Blocks? Everywhere I look they are on backorder :shrug: . Grrr ![]() |
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Cooling Neophyte
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Montreal, Canada
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Via are know to vibrate a lot and be noisy. Also, alot of people had there via's die on their hand after less than 2-3 months of use, when others have been running there own for years without flaw. But that's what you should expect of low hand product, as someone else once said: when you buy low quality pump, it may work well.
740gph means 740 gallons per hour, that's the maximum flow (unrestricted inlet/outlet) that the pump can give you, you will never achieve even half such a flow, especially only 6.5feet of head. Your pump is high flow, low head pump, exactly the opposite of you should be looking for (low flow, high head).
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: london, england
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http://www.lux-design.com/onlinestore/c166643.2.html i think i've seen someone posting somewhere who uses a via 2600 - if i spot it i'll post a link.... |
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Cooling Neophyte
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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I won a VIA 2600 on ebay for $30.00. Now I am looking at the PolarFlo blocks. I hear they perform quite well in tests and the finish on the SF blocks are amazing, plus you can pick a color. The only thing I saw that I didnt like was the choice of barbs, especially for such a high price. I will let you know what happens as soon as I figure out which blocks I'm getting. I may go for the Maze 4 GPU. Unless anyone here has used something better.
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Cooling Neophyte
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: NZ
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Hi,
I've used the Via 1300 and are currently using the Via 2600. Firstly, the power difference between the 1300 and 2600 is large and the extra energy noticably bleeds into the system. The 2600 is just way bigger and has a stupid large inlet of which you will need reducers to run the pump inline (to attach 3/4 or 1/2 pipe). I run the pump submerged with the impeller affixed with Loctite. This removed most all of the vibration noise. Add a piece of foam on the bottom and its silent. My 1300 died on me. No electrically but phsycially. The plastic thread is very weak and I cracked it tightening the outlet adapter. Gluing it worked for a few months but the water and pressure eventually beat the glue. With the addition of a NB waterblock the 1300 wasn't really going to cut it. Yes they are cheaper than Ehiem and such. This is attractive to me for experimenting.
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Cooling Savant
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Lawrenceville, NJ
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You are really better off with a Danner/Supreme pump as I have hear of Via's having problems and need modifications to even basically work, but I've only heard very good things about the Danner Mag's
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Cooling Savant
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: orlando FL
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Choose a Danner over a Via. Search the forums here for Mag3. I have built one system so far, the one Im using, after searching all over the web to learn how. Procooling has been by far the best resource. You're using your head first and your tools second. I like that! Good luck.
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