Snap Server 2200 software upgrade.

rld9352 · 06-27-2006, 10:12 AM

I have software version 3.4.805.
Should I upgrade to 4.0.860?
What are the advantages and disadvantages?

I'm having a problem with retrospect back-up and they suggested upgrading the snap server.

jontz · 06-27-2006, 11:51 AM

The only advantage is Microsoft AD support. If you don't need AD support, then upgrading will just make it slower.

rld9352 · 06-27-2006, 01:07 PM

What about the updates that came out between 3.4.805 and 4.0.860?
Any advantages?

sgossard34 · 06-27-2006, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jontz

The only advantage is Microsoft AD support. If you don't need AD support, then upgrading will just make it slower.

Actually I do not think that is true. I have not heard of the 2200 units slowing down once 860 is applied.

Maybe blue can comment on this.

Phoenix32 · 06-27-2006, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rld9352

What about the updates that came out between 3.4.805 and 4.0.860?
Any advantages?

I have assumed that same "only MS AD" idea since this is what our local gurus have said and I have no reason to question them. But, the question you ask here is one that I have wondered for some time myself. Surely there was more being worked on, improved, corrected, or whatever other than just MS AD in all of those revs between 3.4.805 and 4.0.860. It would be nice if we had a history of the OS revs and what was done in them like you do other things, but you know adaptec, no information availble. For all we know, they broke more things than they fixed.

blue68f100 · 06-27-2006, 04:52 PM

There is a slight change in speed, due to the larger overhead between v3 and v4. Once you make the jump to 4 I don't know any .??? performace data. They only updated MS AD support since they allready had 2k support.

The only v4 rev that I know of is 4.0.830, 4.0.854, 4.0.860

But now the Adaptec owns them now, there may not be any more. Since Adaptec had some products that directly competed against Snap we will just have to wait and see. Who know they may move the Guardian to the smaller units...... Wish, would require a hardware change. And would not be backward compatable.

jontz · 06-27-2006, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sgossard34

Actually I do not think that is true. I have not heard of the 2200 units slowing down once 860 is applied.

Maybe blue can comment on this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by blue68f100

There is a slight change in speed, due to the larger overhead between v3 and v4.

HA!

Just kidding. I'm not right very often, so I have to make a big deal of it when I am.

rld9352 · 06-29-2006, 01:17 PM

Retrospect recommended running fsck.
I don't know much about Linux or this snap server.
Is it ok to run fsck?
If so what do I put in the snap server command line to run it?

blue68f100 · 06-29-2006, 04:01 PM

The Snap OS monitors it's file system pretty close. If you suspect a problem, look at the log, and see what if anything is happening.

What is your drive setup configured as.

What kind of problem are you having with retrospect (mac or pc)?

As for fsck, the snap auto check during boot. I don't recommed running it unless a snap demon tells me to.

rld9352 · 07-03-2006, 01:50 PM

Well I decided to go ahead and upgrade the OS.
Now I'm getting an error when I try to upgrade - "The file is not a valid upgrade for your server". I get this in assist and the admin tool.
I'm pointing it to the snap_4_x.sup file on my local hard drive.

any suggestions?

Phoenix32 · 07-03-2006, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rld9352

Well I decided to go ahead and upgrade the OS.
Now I'm getting an error when I try to upgrade - "The file is not a valid upgrade for your server". I get this in assist and the admin tool.
I'm pointing it to the snap_4_x.sup file on my local hard drive.

any suggestions?

IF you are using 4.0.860, you must already be using a 4.x.x OS version. IF going from 3.x.x, then you must use 4.0.830 to get to 4.x.x and then you can update to 4.0.860.

rld9352 · 07-03-2006, 03:22 PM

Can you download 4.0.830 on adaptec's site?
I can't find it

Phoenix32 · 07-03-2006, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rld9352

Can you download 4.0.830 on adaptec's site?
I can't find it

Unfortunately, no...

They want you to pay them for it...

rld9352 · 07-03-2006, 03:35 PM

Do you know how much they charge for it?

Phoenix32 · 07-03-2006, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rld9352

Do you know how much they charge for it?

Sorry, you got the extent of my knowledge on it. Dave?

re3dyb0y · 07-04-2006, 02:31 AM

V4 was about $130-$150 i believe when i originally bought it....

That was 4.0.830 i think

This was nearly 2 years ago

(Jesus, doesn't time fly - That means ive been here 2 years!!)

Parity Error · 07-09-2006, 03:58 PM

never mind... wrong place

blue68f100 · 07-09-2006, 04:18 PM

The JVM folder/directory is not present.

check under Network shares and see if you have "Java$" share.

Requires 24 meg min. of free ram. debug cmd "debug memory"
The 2200 is borderline and may be locked out, reserved for 128meg units.

Have never used it on mine, But Sam may have had at one time.

06-27-2006, 10:12 AM	#1
rld9352 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: MS Posts: 8	Snap Server 2200 software upgrade. I have software version 3.4.805. Should I upgrade to 4.0.860? What are the advantages and disadvantages? I'm having a problem with retrospect back-up and they suggested upgrading the snap server.

06-27-2006, 11:51 AM	#2
jontz Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: South Bend, IN Posts: 385	Re: Snap Server 2200 software upgrade. The only advantage is Microsoft AD support. If you don't need AD support, then upgrading will just make it slower. __________________ Snap Server 4100, 4x120GB Seagate Drives, RAID 5, version 3.4.803

06-27-2006, 01:07 PM	#3
rld9352 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: MS Posts: 8	Re: Snap Server 2200 software upgrade. What about the updates that came out between 3.4.805 and 4.0.860? Any advantages?

06-27-2006, 04:52 PM	#6
blue68f100 Thermophile Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 3,135	Re: Snap Server 2200 software upgrade. There is a slight change in speed, due to the larger overhead between v3 and v4. Once you make the jump to 4 I don't know any .??? performace data. They only updated MS AD support since they allready had 2k support. The only v4 rev that I know of is 4.0.830, 4.0.854, 4.0.860 But now the Adaptec owns them now, there may not be any more. Since Adaptec had some products that directly competed against Snap we will just have to wait and see. Who know they may move the Guardian to the smaller units...... Wish, would require a hardware change. And would not be backward compatable. __________________ 1 Snap 4500 - 1.0T (4 x 250gig WD2500SB RE), Raid5, 1 Snap 4500 - 1.6T (4 x 400gig Seagates), Raid5, 1 Snap 4200 - 4.0T (4 x 2gig Seagates), Raid5, Using SATA converts from Andy Link to SnapOS FAQ's http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=13820

06-29-2006, 01:17 PM	#8
rld9352 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: MS Posts: 8	Re: Snap Server 2200 software upgrade. Retrospect recommended running fsck. I don't know much about Linux or this snap server. Is it ok to run fsck? If so what do I put in the snap server command line to run it?

06-29-2006, 04:01 PM	#9
blue68f100 Thermophile Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 3,135	Re: Snap Server 2200 software upgrade. The Snap OS monitors it's file system pretty close. If you suspect a problem, look at the log, and see what if anything is happening. What is your drive setup configured as. What kind of problem are you having with retrospect (mac or pc)? As for fsck, the snap auto check during boot. I don't recommed running it unless a snap demon tells me to. __________________ 1 Snap 4500 - 1.0T (4 x 250gig WD2500SB RE), Raid5, 1 Snap 4500 - 1.6T (4 x 400gig Seagates), Raid5, 1 Snap 4200 - 4.0T (4 x 2gig Seagates), Raid5, Using SATA converts from Andy Link to SnapOS FAQ's http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=13820

07-03-2006, 01:50 PM	#10
rld9352 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: MS Posts: 8	Re: Snap Server 2200 software upgrade. Well I decided to go ahead and upgrade the OS. Now I'm getting an error when I try to upgrade - "The file is not a valid upgrade for your server". I get this in assist and the admin tool. I'm pointing it to the snap_4_x.sup file on my local hard drive. any suggestions?

07-03-2006, 03:22 PM	#12
rld9352 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: MS Posts: 8	Re: Snap Server 2200 software upgrade. Can you download 4.0.830 on adaptec's site? I can't find it

07-03-2006, 03:35 PM	#14
rld9352 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: MS Posts: 8	Re: Snap Server 2200 software upgrade. Do you know how much they charge for it?

07-04-2006, 02:31 AM	#16
re3dyb0y Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: UK Posts: 909	Re: Snap Server 2200 software upgrade. V4 was about $130-$150 i believe when i originally bought it.... That was 4.0.830 i think This was nearly 2 years ago (Jesus, doesn't time fly - That means ive been here 2 years!!) __________________ Snap Server Help Wiki - http://wiki.procooling.com/index.php/Snap_Server Snap Server 2200 v3.4.807 2x 250GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 w/ UNIDFC601512M Replacement Fan "Did you really think it would be that easy??" Other NAS's 1x NSLU2 w/ 512mb Corsair Flash Voyager Running Unslung 6.8b 1x NSLU2 w/ 8Gb LaCie Carte Orange Running Debian/NSLU2 Stable 4.0r0 250GB LaCie Ethernet Disk Running Windows XP Embedded

07-09-2006, 03:58 PM	#17
Parity Error Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Just west of North Nowhere.. Posts: 24	Re: Snap Server 2200 software upgrade. never mind... wrong place Last edited by Parity Error; 07-09-2006 at 04:08 PM.

07-09-2006, 04:18 PM	#18
blue68f100 Thermophile Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 3,135	Re: Snap Server 2200 software upgrade. The JVM folder/directory is not present. check under Network shares and see if you have "Java$" share. Requires 24 meg min. of free ram. debug cmd "debug memory" The 2200 is borderline and may be locked out, reserved for 128meg units. Have never used it on mine, But Sam may have had at one time. __________________ 1 Snap 4500 - 1.0T (4 x 250gig WD2500SB RE), Raid5, 1 Snap 4500 - 1.6T (4 x 400gig Seagates), Raid5, 1 Snap 4200 - 4.0T (4 x 2gig Seagates), Raid5, Using SATA converts from Andy Link to SnapOS FAQ's http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=13820

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