Snap Server alternative OS ???

alretana · 04-02-2008, 11:39 AM

Hi all, I have a Snap Server 4200 that is not working because a disk failure.
The question about is if there are some way to install another operating system than GuardianOS?? This is just because all my disks are new and formated... and I don't have another snap server near...

Thanks
Alejandro

blue68f100 · 04-03-2008, 05:11 AM

FreeBSD can be loaded with a few tweeks for the hardware. It was done on a 4500 over a year ago. That would allow you to run FreeNAS, because it is built on the FreeBSD platform. At one time this was in beta and may still be. I have played with it several years ago, before I got my 4500. Search for FreeBSD and see if you can find it.

alretana · 04-03-2008, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by blue68f100

FreeBSD can be loaded with a few tweeks for the hardware. It was done on a 4500 over a year ago. That would allow you to run FreeNAS, because it is built on the FreeBSD platform. At one time this was in beta and may still be. I have played with it several years ago, before I got my 4500. Search for FreeBSD and see if you can find it.

What you mean with "a few tweeks"?... I tried to install Linux Fedora 8 and the process of install and configure the OS was successful (1 hour and a half), but when the server is ready to start to work, in a few minutes, like 5, reboots by herself... I think that this machines have some kind of OS validation in some place... like a electronic chip or something...

Phoenix32 · 04-03-2008, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by alretana

I think that this machines have some kind of OS validation in some place... like a electronic chip or something...

That is EXACTLY right. It has a watchdog BIOS...

blue68f100 · 04-03-2008, 11:18 AM

http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/sho...highlight=4500 Post 2

Paradigm · 04-04-2008, 02:12 PM

I have a Snap server 4500 on which I am running Windows Server 2003 R2 wit no issues. The watchdog can be disabled in the BIOS on the 4500. I do not know about the 4200 in that regard.
To install a new OS all I had to do was boot off of a USB CD-ROM drive and install windows.

Phoenix32 · 04-04-2008, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Paradigm

I have a Snap server 4500 on which I am running Windows Server 2003 R2 wit no issues. The watchdog can be disabled in the BIOS on the 4500. I do not know about the 4200 in that regard.
To install a new OS all I had to do was boot off of a USB CD-ROM drive and install windows.

Also correct...

alretana · 04-07-2008, 06:54 AM

Thank you all guys!!! I disable watchdog from the BIOS and install a Debian Linux and my 4200 is up and running!!!

Phoenix32 · 04-08-2008, 11:00 AM

No offense, but what a waste IMO...

The best NAS software out there replaced by a basic Linux install.

You really should try to get the Guardian OS reinstalled....

alretana · 04-08-2008, 01:52 PM

mmmm... but what is the way to reinstall Guardian OS if I don't have a hard disk with the minimal OS image???? I have the guardianos_4.2.054_full_OSImage.gsu file on my laptop... but is like have nothing...
The only way that I found to put the box on the race was installing another version of Linux, just because the difficulties of the Guardian OS minimal image on the hard disk... as mentioned before, I don't have another SnapServer box... you know, I live in Costa Rica and it's so expensive to send my box to US only for repair... and, another thing that is nice, I have now a full custom install (with a full GUI) of powerful and secure Debian Linux, with all my preferences and SOX comply requirements, and I don't think that is a waste or a basic Linux install.

Phoenix32 · 04-08-2008, 06:44 PM

Yeah, I understand sometimes it is not an option, but it is still sad...

abuthemagician · 12-05-2008, 09:04 AM

not to threadjack (well, yes i am) but what would be the best alternative to GOS? I have GOS5 sp1 on a 4200 and while it will join my Windows Server 2008 domain, it will not import the users from it because of the version of Samba that GOS5 SP1 uses. So now i have a useless Snap unit. Anyone have a good idea of what i can do? I have tried Overland but they are useless and pretty much tell me that no it doesn't support 2008 and they don't know when it will.

Metal · 12-06-2008, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by abuthemagician

not to threadjack (well, yes i am) but what would be the best alternative to GOS? I have GOS5 sp1 on a 4200 and while it will join my Windows Server 2008 domain, it will not import the users from it because of the version of Samba that GOS5 SP1 uses. So now i have a useless Snap unit. Anyone have a good idea of what i can do? I have tried Overland but they are useless and pretty much tell me that no it doesn't support 2008 and they don't know when it will.

I'm about to try Windows Home Server on a Dell 725n (real close to a snap 4200)
Might be worth a shot?

Phoenix32 · 12-06-2008, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Metal

I'm about to try Windows Home Server on a Dell 725n (real close to a snap 4200)
Might be worth a shot?

Let us know how that one turns out. I considered this at one point but was not sure about drivers availability and did not have the cash to shell out for WHS and have it not work maybe.

Metal · 12-07-2008, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix32

Let us know how that one turns out. I considered this at one point but was not sure about drivers availability and did not have the cash to shell out for WHS and have it not work maybe.

I'll probably get to it tomorrow. (Sunday) Windows home server is based off server 2003 so I don't think drivers will be an issue. Microsoft is giving a free 120 day eval too if you wanted to try it.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...rver/eval.mspx

Metal · 12-09-2008, 03:32 PM

Windows Home Server worked on a Dell 725n, all I had to do is load the Ethernet drivers after setup with the ones provided on support.dell.com. Other than that it was a straight forward install.

04-02-2008, 11:39 AM	#1
alretana Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Costa Rica Posts: 4	Snap Server alternative OS ??? Hi all, I have a Snap Server 4200 that is not working because a disk failure. The question about is if there are some way to install another operating system than GuardianOS?? This is just because all my disks are new and formated... and I don't have another snap server near... Thanks Alejandro

04-03-2008, 05:11 AM	#2
blue68f100 Thermophile Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 3,135	Re: Snap Server alternative OS ??? FreeBSD can be loaded with a few tweeks for the hardware. It was done on a 4500 over a year ago. That would allow you to run FreeNAS, because it is built on the FreeBSD platform. At one time this was in beta and may still be. I have played with it several years ago, before I got my 4500. Search for FreeBSD and see if you can find it. __________________ 1 Snap 4500 - 1.0T (4 x 250gig WD2500SB RE), Raid5, 1 Snap 4500 - 1.6T (4 x 400gig Seagates), Raid5, 1 Snap 4200 - 4.0T (4 x 2gig Seagates), Raid5, Using SATA converts from Andy Link to SnapOS FAQ's http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=13820

04-03-2008, 11:18 AM	#5
blue68f100 Thermophile Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 3,135	Re: Snap Server alternative OS ??? http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/sho...highlight=4500 Post 2 __________________ 1 Snap 4500 - 1.0T (4 x 250gig WD2500SB RE), Raid5, 1 Snap 4500 - 1.6T (4 x 400gig Seagates), Raid5, 1 Snap 4200 - 4.0T (4 x 2gig Seagates), Raid5, Using SATA converts from Andy Link to SnapOS FAQ's http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=13820

04-04-2008, 02:12 PM	#6
Paradigm Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: California Posts: 2	Re: Snap Server alternative OS ??? I have a Snap server 4500 on which I am running Windows Server 2003 R2 wit no issues. The watchdog can be disabled in the BIOS on the 4500. I do not know about the 4200 in that regard. To install a new OS all I had to do was boot off of a USB CD-ROM drive and install windows.

04-07-2008, 06:54 AM	#8
alretana Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Costa Rica Posts: 4	Re: Snap Server alternative OS ??? Thank you all guys!!! I disable watchdog from the BIOS and install a Debian Linux and my 4200 is up and running!!!

04-08-2008, 11:00 AM	#9
Phoenix32 Thermophile Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yakima, WA Posts: 1,282	Re: Snap Server alternative OS ??? No offense, but what a waste IMO... The best NAS software out there replaced by a basic Linux install. You really should try to get the Guardian OS reinstalled....

04-08-2008, 01:52 PM	#10
alretana Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Costa Rica Posts: 4	Re: Snap Server alternative OS ??? mmmm... but what is the way to reinstall Guardian OS if I don't have a hard disk with the minimal OS image???? I have the guardianos_4.2.054_full_OSImage.gsu file on my laptop... but is like have nothing... The only way that I found to put the box on the race was installing another version of Linux, just because the difficulties of the Guardian OS minimal image on the hard disk... as mentioned before, I don't have another SnapServer box... you know, I live in Costa Rica and it's so expensive to send my box to US only for repair... and, another thing that is nice, I have now a full custom install (with a full GUI) of powerful and secure Debian Linux, with all my preferences and SOX comply requirements, and I don't think that is a waste or a basic Linux install.

04-08-2008, 06:44 PM	#11
Phoenix32 Thermophile Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yakima, WA Posts: 1,282	Re: Snap Server alternative OS ??? Yeah, I understand sometimes it is not an option, but it is still sad...

12-05-2008, 09:04 AM	#12
abuthemagician Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: USA Posts: 21	Re: Snap Server alternative OS ??? not to threadjack (well, yes i am) but what would be the best alternative to GOS? I have GOS5 sp1 on a 4200 and while it will join my Windows Server 2008 domain, it will not import the users from it because of the version of Samba that GOS5 SP1 uses. So now i have a useless Snap unit. Anyone have a good idea of what i can do? I have tried Overland but they are useless and pretty much tell me that no it doesn't support 2008 and they don't know when it will.

12-09-2008, 03:32 PM	#16
Metal Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Detroit Posts: 31	Re: Snap Server alternative OS ??? Windows Home Server worked on a Dell 725n, all I had to do is load the Ethernet drivers after setup with the ones provided on support.dell.com. Other than that it was a straight forward install.

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