Drive size limit in an 1100?

Geek_Ed · 09-21-2006, 06:52 AM

Does anyone know what the drive size limit is in an 1100 (if there is one)? If it's the magical 1TB, that would be great, COMPUSA has Seagate 750GB drives on sale this week, and I think even formatted, over 675GB in that small of a package would nice to have.

Hallis · 09-21-2006, 08:19 AM

Well ive got a 300gb in mine so i'm willing to wajor the 750 would work. The only thing to worry about i think it the power requirements of the drive. and, make sure it's an ATA/100 drive. I THINK i remember reading that ATA/133 drives wouldn't work for some reason. Although i dont see why they wouldnt. What's the current sale price on those 750's?

Shane

Geek_Ed · 09-21-2006, 08:26 AM

It is an ATA/100 drive, price after a $50 rebate is $279

I checked the specs, and It takes 2 amps to spin up, and 12 watts when running. I believe this is comparable with Seagate's other large drives.

Hallis · 09-21-2006, 08:29 AM

Then it should be good to go. I wouldn't mind putting 2 of those bad boys in a 2200

Shane

blue68f100 · 09-21-2006, 11:28 AM

I'v Seen 500gig on ebay, The 750 add another platter and heads. The kernel should read it with no problem. Have not idea how the OS will react. Should not cause a problem once it starts spinning. The High current startup i think last for the first 10 sec then drops to nornal runtime values.

Keep us posted on how it works out.

Phoenix32 · 09-21-2006, 12:05 PM

Let's not forget the heat of the drive. Inside those units, without proper cooling, you are going to cook the electronics over time, as well as the drive itself. More platters not only means more power, but more heat...

Hallis · 09-21-2006, 12:51 PM

True, The only thing Maxtor got from the quantum buyout was the Fireball part, lol. Their drives get so hot without proper venting you cant even touch them.

Geek_Ed · 09-22-2006, 05:50 AM

I don't think power will be an issue, it seems the power requirements are about the same as other drives at 250GB and above.

The temerature issue is a good point. I did find it interesting though, that an 1100 has a steel case as opposed to the aluminum one of the 1000. Better hard drive technology in the past few years, i.e. they run cooler? Perhaps a fav upgrade for the unit would be in order. I reied to find specs for the part number on the fan in one of my 1100, but can't find any. I know it's a 40mm 12 volt fan, but don't know what the CFM rating is, anybosy know?

Geek_Ed · 09-23-2006, 10:02 AM

Well here's my not-very-scientific report of things:

Drive replacement went without a hitch, from an 80GB to the 750GB, using the established procedures in the Wiki (HD->img, then img->HD). The reformat after putting the image on the drive took about 6 minutes, formatted capacity is 701,994 MB

As for the heat issue, using my very accurately calibrated hand <wink>, it seems to run at about the same temp as my other 1100 with the factory 80GB Maxtor drive in it, and it actually runs a little cooler than an 1100 with a WD 250GB drive.

Just thought inquiring minds would like to know!

Hallis · 09-23-2006, 11:45 AM

that means you could probably put 2x750 in a 2200 and have a 1.4tb server

Geek_Ed · 09-23-2006, 11:50 AM

That is exceeding the 1.2TB limit, so I'm not sure if you could have a RAID1, but I assume 2 700GB shares would work.

Hallis · 09-23-2006, 11:55 AM

I just bought 2x 400 Seagates because they were on sale for $109 each. Now all i need is a 2000 or 2200 to put them in, lol

Yah, i think 2x700gb shares would be the way to go. Even in a Mirror fassion would be good.

interesting ebay link here, anybody we know?

http://cgi.ebay.com/SNAP-Server-1100...QQcmdZViewItem

re3dyb0y · 09-25-2006, 07:49 AM

Its one of those things

People offer help and advice, and some people exploit it for money

Not that that user did get help from here... But i would be suprised if they hadn't!

Hallis · 09-25-2006, 09:12 AM

I think a portion of the proceeds should go to Procooling.com to help Joe keep the website up.

09-21-2006, 06:52 AM	#1
Geek_Ed Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NY Posts: 38	Drive size limit in an 1100? Does anyone know what the drive size limit is in an 1100 (if there is one)? If it's the magical 1TB, that would be great, COMPUSA has Seagate 750GB drives on sale this week, and I think even formatted, over 675GB in that small of a package would nice to have.

09-21-2006, 08:19 AM	#2
Hallis Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Dallas, Tx Posts: 469	Re: Drive size limit in an 1100? Well ive got a 300gb in mine so i'm willing to wajor the 750 would work. The only thing to worry about i think it the power requirements of the drive. and, make sure it's an ATA/100 drive. I THINK i remember reading that ATA/133 drives wouldn't work for some reason. Although i dont see why they wouldnt. What's the current sale price on those 750's? Shane

09-21-2006, 08:26 AM	#3
Geek_Ed Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NY Posts: 38	Re: Drive size limit in an 1100? It is an ATA/100 drive, price after a $50 rebate is $279 I checked the specs, and It takes 2 amps to spin up, and 12 watts when running. I believe this is comparable with Seagate's other large drives.

09-21-2006, 08:29 AM	#4
Hallis Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Dallas, Tx Posts: 469	Re: Drive size limit in an 1100? Then it should be good to go. I wouldn't mind putting 2 of those bad boys in a 2200 Shane

09-21-2006, 11:28 AM	#5
blue68f100 Thermophile Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 3,135	Re: Drive size limit in an 1100? I'v Seen 500gig on ebay, The 750 add another platter and heads. The kernel should read it with no problem. Have not idea how the OS will react. Should not cause a problem once it starts spinning. The High current startup i think last for the first 10 sec then drops to nornal runtime values. Keep us posted on how it works out. __________________ 1 Snap 4500 - 1.0T (4 x 250gig WD2500SB RE), Raid5, 1 Snap 4500 - 1.6T (4 x 400gig Seagates), Raid5, 1 Snap 4200 - 4.0T (4 x 2gig Seagates), Raid5, Using SATA converts from Andy Link to SnapOS FAQ's http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=13820

09-21-2006, 12:05 PM	#6
Phoenix32 Thermophile Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yakima, WA Posts: 1,282	Re: Drive size limit in an 1100? Let's not forget the heat of the drive. Inside those units, without proper cooling, you are going to cook the electronics over time, as well as the drive itself. More platters not only means more power, but more heat...

09-21-2006, 12:51 PM	#7
Hallis Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Dallas, Tx Posts: 469	Re: Drive size limit in an 1100? True, The only thing Maxtor got from the quantum buyout was the Fireball part, lol. Their drives get so hot without proper venting you cant even touch them.

09-22-2006, 05:50 AM	#8
Geek_Ed Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NY Posts: 38	Re: Drive size limit in an 1100? I don't think power will be an issue, it seems the power requirements are about the same as other drives at 250GB and above. The temerature issue is a good point. I did find it interesting though, that an 1100 has a steel case as opposed to the aluminum one of the 1000. Better hard drive technology in the past few years, i.e. they run cooler? Perhaps a fav upgrade for the unit would be in order. I reied to find specs for the part number on the fan in one of my 1100, but can't find any. I know it's a 40mm 12 volt fan, but don't know what the CFM rating is, anybosy know?

09-23-2006, 10:02 AM	#9
Geek_Ed Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NY Posts: 38	Re: Drive size limit in an 1100? Well here's my not-very-scientific report of things: Drive replacement went without a hitch, from an 80GB to the 750GB, using the established procedures in the Wiki (HD->img, then img->HD). The reformat after putting the image on the drive took about 6 minutes, formatted capacity is 701,994 MB As for the heat issue, using my very accurately calibrated hand <wink>, it seems to run at about the same temp as my other 1100 with the factory 80GB Maxtor drive in it, and it actually runs a little cooler than an 1100 with a WD 250GB drive. Just thought inquiring minds would like to know!

09-23-2006, 11:45 AM	#10
Hallis Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Dallas, Tx Posts: 469	Re: Drive size limit in an 1100? that means you could probably put 2x750 in a 2200 and have a 1.4tb server

09-23-2006, 11:50 AM	#11
Geek_Ed Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NY Posts: 38	Re: Drive size limit in an 1100? That is exceeding the 1.2TB limit, so I'm not sure if you could have a RAID1, but I assume 2 700GB shares would work.

09-23-2006, 11:55 AM	#12
Hallis Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Dallas, Tx Posts: 469	Re: Drive size limit in an 1100? I just bought 2x 400 Seagates because they were on sale for $109 each. Now all i need is a 2000 or 2200 to put them in, lol Yah, i think 2x700gb shares would be the way to go. Even in a Mirror fassion would be good. interesting ebay link here, anybody we know? http://cgi.ebay.com/SNAP-Server-1100...QQcmdZViewItem Last edited by Hallis; 09-25-2006 at 06:04 AM.

09-25-2006, 07:49 AM	#13
re3dyb0y Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: UK Posts: 909	Re: Drive size limit in an 1100? Its one of those things People offer help and advice, and some people exploit it for money Not that that user did get help from here... But i would be suprised if they hadn't! __________________ Snap Server Help Wiki - http://wiki.procooling.com/index.php/Snap_Server Snap Server 2200 v3.4.807 2x 250GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 w/ UNIDFC601512M Replacement Fan "Did you really think it would be that easy??" Other NAS's 1x NSLU2 w/ 512mb Corsair Flash Voyager Running Unslung 6.8b 1x NSLU2 w/ 8Gb LaCie Carte Orange Running Debian/NSLU2 Stable 4.0r0 250GB LaCie Ethernet Disk Running Windows XP Embedded

09-25-2006, 09:12 AM	#14
Hallis Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Dallas, Tx Posts: 469	Re: Drive size limit in an 1100? I think a portion of the proceeds should go to Procooling.com to help Joe keep the website up.

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