water loop, heatercores

junglebass · 02-23-2004, 10:49 AM

hey all, so sick of fans buzzing, going water

my hardware
mb:abit nf7, cpu 2500
ram: kingston hyperx pc 3700

chepo RIO400 pump(will upgrade later on when have some cash flow)
eagle talon's oil cooler rad(will upgrade to heatercore when weather is nice)
80mm and a 92mm fans

i got the following in the mail: coming soon
DANGER DEN MAZE4 block
SWIFTECH MCW5000-A block
will use the better block and do something with the other....
REDLINE WATER WETTER
KURI TEC 1/2 INCH OD VINYL TUBING

im goinng to do a custom(dont care about the case, gona cut it up) install with a short closed loop, rad mounted outside the case(proly at the back) with a push/pull low rpm fans....

how should my loop go? pump, rad, block, pump........
or pump, block, rad, pump...??
also thinking of mounting the rad outside the window with no fans(outside temp -8to +8 C range now...) is this a good/bad idea?

and finaly im gona upgrade to a heatercore when the weather gets a bit better so i can go to a junk and search for one.....
heatercore questions:
can i use one ripped from an old car? or its better to buy a brand new one?
since im mouning it outside the case, bigger is better right? or i can connect two together?
and finally what car should i ripp it out of and where is it generally located in a car?
anything else i should know?
peace

krazy · 02-23-2004, 01:23 PM

you're usually better off picking up a new heatercore. They are usually dirt cheap; like us$20 for a brand new, shiny, leak-free one instead of us$20 for a used, gunky, slimy, questionable one you had to pull out of some junked car yourself.

I'll let someone else talk about diminishing returns vs. size and flow order, but in short: bigger is usually better, but only to a certain point where it becomes less than worth your while. A lot of people like pump>heatercore because it takes any heat the pump may have put into the water out before circulating it to the blocks. It has also been generally concluded that flow order doesn't matter much, so do whatever gives you the shortest flow.

Gooserider · 02-23-2004, 09:29 PM

IMHO Single flow cores are better than dual pass cores (less restriction) if you can get one that fits. The FedCo # 2-342 is one of the most popular big cores (9.5" X 6.125 grid area, plus tanks) with others in the same general range.
I paid about $40 for mine, brand new from NAPA / Belkamp. It has real funky longneck fittings on it, so you will definitely need to mod those to fit your app.

Gooserider

02-23-2004, 10:49 AM	#1
junglebass Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: toronto Posts: 2	water loop, heatercores hey all, so sick of fans buzzing, going water my hardware mb:abit nf7, cpu 2500 ram: kingston hyperx pc 3700 chepo RIO400 pump(will upgrade later on when have some cash flow) eagle talon's oil cooler rad(will upgrade to heatercore when weather is nice) 80mm and a 92mm fans i got the following in the mail: coming soon DANGER DEN MAZE4 block SWIFTECH MCW5000-A block will use the better block and do something with the other.... REDLINE WATER WETTER KURI TEC 1/2 INCH OD VINYL TUBING im goinng to do a custom(dont care about the case, gona cut it up) install with a short closed loop, rad mounted outside the case(proly at the back) with a push/pull low rpm fans.... how should my loop go? pump, rad, block, pump........ or pump, block, rad, pump...?? also thinking of mounting the rad outside the window with no fans(outside temp -8to +8 C range now...) is this a good/bad idea? and finaly im gona upgrade to a heatercore when the weather gets a bit better so i can go to a junk and search for one..... heatercore questions: can i use one ripped from an old car? or its better to buy a brand new one? since im mouning it outside the case, bigger is better right? or i can connect two together? and finally what car should i ripp it out of and where is it generally located in a car? anything else i should know? peace

02-23-2004, 01:23 PM	#2
krazy Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: St. Paul, Minnesota, USA Posts: 123	you're usually better off picking up a new heatercore. They are usually dirt cheap; like us$20 for a brand new, shiny, leak-free one instead of us$20 for a used, gunky, slimy, questionable one you had to pull out of some junked car yourself. I'll let someone else talk about diminishing returns vs. size and flow order, but in short: bigger is usually better, but only to a certain point where it becomes less than worth your while. A lot of people like pump>heatercore because it takes any heat the pump may have put into the water out before circulating it to the blocks. It has also been generally concluded that flow order doesn't matter much, so do whatever gives you the shortest flow. __________________ Abit NF7-S ... xp1800+ ... Abit GF4ti4200 ... Maxtor 120gb SATA150 Currently gathering parts to water cool everything! (read about the project)

02-23-2004, 09:29 PM	#3
Gooserider Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: North Billerica, MA, USA Posts: 451	IMHO Single flow cores are better than dual pass cores (less restriction) if you can get one that fits. The FedCo # 2-342 is one of the most popular big cores (9.5" X 6.125 grid area, plus tanks) with others in the same general range. I paid about $40 for mine, brand new from NAPA / Belkamp. It has real funky longneck fittings on it, so you will definitely need to mod those to fit your app. Gooserider __________________ Designing system, will have Tyan S2468UGN Dual Athlon MOBO, SCSI HDDS, other goodies. Will run LINUX only. Want to have silent running, minimal fans, and water cooled. Probably not OC'c

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