The MCP 650 fittings

Zeta09 · 09-20-2004, 06:40 AM

I have been fortunate enough to get my hands on the new Swiftech MCP 650.

Unfortunately, my previous rigs all have 3/8"ID, 1/2"OD tubing. I have searched then net now for 2 days and found nothing so far on what tubing other guys are using. I have tried to force the 1/2" OD tubing on (used vasoline) but just doesn't quite make it over the lip.

Will I have to go to the higher 1/2"ID 3/4"OD tubing?
On Danger Den's site they list the barbs for 1/2"OD tubing and I had thought the DD12V and MCP 650 were the same pump?

Let me know. Thanks in advance.

BillA · 09-20-2004, 08:51 AM

we (Swiftech) use, and sell, 3/8 x 1/2 barbed adaptors
http://www.swiftnets.com/store/produ...asp?ProdID=258

Tempus · 09-20-2004, 09:56 AM

you should also be able to force it by heating the tubing prior to installation (if you want to use the smaller stuff w/ no adaptor).

Heat a pan of water to near boiling and let the tube soak a bit. That should provide enough give to force it over the fitting.

gungeek · 09-20-2004, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempus

you should also be able to force it by heating the tubing prior to installation (if you want to use the smaller stuff w/ no adaptor).

Heat a pan of water to near boiling and let the tube soak a bit. That should provide enough give to force it over the fitting.

That works well with 1/8 wall tubing, but 1/16 wall doesn't have the stiffness to be pushed over a 1/8 larger barb when heated. If someone knows how to get 3/8ID1/2OD tubing over a 1/2OD barb, I'd really like to know.

Tempus · 09-20-2004, 01:33 PM

it works really well for hose barbs or anything with a tapper.

Forgot the relatively straight and boxy ones on the 650.

Save yourself and get some adaptors.

Zeta09 · 09-23-2004, 03:51 AM

Thanks for the responses I boiled the water and set the tubing in it for maybe 3-4 minutes. With a little vasoline on the edges it worked. I will be testing the circut tommorrow evening but at least the tubing is on there and ready to go.

Thanks again for the responses.

Tempus · 09-23-2004, 08:33 PM

can't wait to see your pics.

Senater_Cache · 09-23-2004, 10:17 PM

I really want to see pics !!
I am in a similar situation, I have a D4 (non swifty) with 3/4 OD barbs. My system is 1/2 ID (this was a planned purchase).
I was going to build an adaptor for the high pressure side, while keeping a 3/4 ID tube between my T and my low pressure side of the pump. I d rather stretch the tube over the high pressure barb.

I saw a threaded barb impellor housing over at Laing's site, so that can be an option too.

SenC.

BillA · 09-24-2004, 09:24 AM

we can stock the threaded pumps, but to date not a single request

Senater_Cache · 09-24-2004, 01:32 PM

Interesting, considering the 650 is 1/2 OD while majority of swifty is 3/8 and threaded barbs are so much easier than a pice of tube an an adapter.
I for one would purchase a barbed impellor housing... guess Ill try to go through Laing...

BillA, is Laing a US or Germany based company. Because If they were based in Germany, I could drop by one of their retailers or their HQ this winter and get me a barbed housing.

SenC.

BillA · 09-24-2004, 01:56 PM

Laing is a German company, inquires to them from the US will be referred to Laing in the US, and these inquires - if related to electronics cooling - will be forwarded to Swiftech
period

the only threaded pump housings are 1/2" NPT male, or 1/2" BSP male (but I'm not so sure looking at the thread)
you really want to put a 1/2" NPT by barb on the pump ?
kinda biggish I think

the only barbed sizes are 1/2" and 3/4", no 3/8"
we are exploring other options, but molded parts take time and $

this arraignment is not as bad as it may appear, the fill-and-bleed kit is no more
its replacement, the MCRES-525 has 3/8" NPT ports which permit a 1/2" barb for the line to the pump inlet, or even a 5/8" barb for a true 1/2" ID system
- then the reducing adaptor to 3/8" is only on the pump discharge for our kits

Bio-Hazard · 09-24-2004, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senater_Cache

Interesting, considering the 650 is 1/2 OD while majority of swifty is 3/8 and threaded barbs are so much easier than a pice of tube an an adapter.
I for one would purchase a barbed impellor housing... guess Ill try to go through Laing...

BillA, is Laing a US or Germany based company. Because If they were based in Germany, I could drop by one of their retailers or their HQ this winter and get me a barbed housing.

SenC.

If you're in Southern Germany, you should stop by and visit the company. They are located just outside of Stuttgart , Germany in a small little town of Aldingen in the industry area. I lived in that same area for 17 years. They are a very friendly people and will more than likely give you a plant tour and then take you out and get you drunk. The people of Baden Wertenberg love to drink beer (even for lunch).

Laing GmbH
Systeme für Wärmetechnik
Klingelbrunnenweg 4
71686 Remseck (Aldingen)
Tel. 07146-93-0, Fax 07146-93-33

Etacovda · 09-24-2004, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unregistered

its replacement, the MCRES-525 has

D12 then the mcp650
Dangerden bayres, now this?
***Etacovda senses trend

http://www.dangerden.com/mall2/more_...asp?fmmore=245

BillA · 09-24-2004, 06:40 PM

lol, but the trend is going where ?
you may have it bassakwards ?

reality does not begin with a product announcement on a web page

Etacovda · 09-24-2004, 06:42 PM

I never said which direction the trend was in, I thought better of that

BillA · 09-24-2004, 07:00 PM

clever, clever
and I bit

Zeta09 · 10-10-2004, 02:19 PM

Well it worked. But I don't know about pics. I put the tubing in the boiling water for about 3-4 mins and then proceeded on. I still applied vasoline on the inside and the fittings. I must say that the MCP 650 is ok but I did not anticipate the small whirring sound that it emits. It is muffled by the 2 side 120mm ("silent") fans I have but it is somewhat noticeable. I will attempt to post pics later this week.

In the meantime thanks for the help. I know have another issue with my video card cooling but I will post that in another section.

Tempus · 10-10-2004, 07:55 PM

my 650 is also rather noisy - much worse than my 600. I've burned it in for 3 days now - gonna give it a week.

09-20-2004, 06:40 AM	#1
Zeta09 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Arizona Posts: 26	The MCP 650 fittings I have been fortunate enough to get my hands on the new Swiftech MCP 650. Unfortunately, my previous rigs all have 3/8"ID, 1/2"OD tubing. I have searched then net now for 2 days and found nothing so far on what tubing other guys are using. I have tried to force the 1/2" OD tubing on (used vasoline) but just doesn't quite make it over the lip. Will I have to go to the higher 1/2"ID 3/4"OD tubing? On Danger Den's site they list the barbs for 1/2"OD tubing and I had thought the DD12V and MCP 650 were the same pump? Let me know. Thanks in advance. __________________ My comps are my life My home network here

09-20-2004, 09:56 AM	#3
Tempus Cooling Savant Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 456	you should also be able to force it by heating the tubing prior to installation (if you want to use the smaller stuff w/ no adaptor). Heat a pan of water to near boiling and let the tube soak a bit. That should provide enough give to force it over the fitting. __________________ Thou art God.

09-20-2004, 01:33 PM	#5
Tempus Cooling Savant Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 456	it works really well for hose barbs or anything with a tapper. Forgot the relatively straight and boxy ones on the 650. Save yourself and get some adaptors. __________________ Thou art God.

09-23-2004, 03:51 AM	#6
Zeta09 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Arizona Posts: 26	It worked. . . . Thanks for the responses I boiled the water and set the tubing in it for maybe 3-4 minutes. With a little vasoline on the edges it worked. I will be testing the circut tommorrow evening but at least the tubing is on there and ready to go. Thanks again for the responses. __________________ My comps are my life My home network here

09-23-2004, 08:33 PM	#7
Tempus Cooling Savant Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 456	can't wait to see your pics. __________________ Thou art God.

09-20-2004, 08:51 AM	#2
BillA CoolingWorks Tech Guy Formerly "Unregistered" Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Posts: 2,371.493,106 Posts: 4,440	we (Swiftech) use, and sell, 3/8 x 1/2 barbed adaptors http://www.swiftnets.com/store/produ...asp?ProdID=258

09-23-2004, 10:17 PM	#8
Senater_Cache Cooling Savant Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: F L Posts: 125	I really want to see pics !! I am in a similar situation, I have a D4 (non swifty) with 3/4 OD barbs. My system is 1/2 ID (this was a planned purchase). I was going to build an adaptor for the high pressure side, while keeping a 3/4 ID tube between my T and my low pressure side of the pump. I d rather stretch the tube over the high pressure barb. I saw a threaded barb impellor housing over at Laing's site, so that can be an option too. SenC.

09-24-2004, 09:24 AM	#9
BillA CoolingWorks Tech Guy Formerly "Unregistered" Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Posts: 2,371.493,106 Posts: 4,440	we can stock the threaded pumps, but to date not a single request

09-24-2004, 01:32 PM	#10
Senater_Cache Cooling Savant Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: F L Posts: 125	Interesting, considering the 650 is 1/2 OD while majority of swifty is 3/8 and threaded barbs are so much easier than a pice of tube an an adapter. I for one would purchase a barbed impellor housing... guess Ill try to go through Laing... BillA, is Laing a US or Germany based company. Because If they were based in Germany, I could drop by one of their retailers or their HQ this winter and get me a barbed housing. SenC.

09-24-2004, 01:56 PM	#11
BillA CoolingWorks Tech Guy Formerly "Unregistered" Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Posts: 2,371.493,106 Posts: 4,440	Laing is a German company, inquires to them from the US will be referred to Laing in the US, and these inquires - if related to electronics cooling - will be forwarded to Swiftech period the only threaded pump housings are 1/2" NPT male, or 1/2" BSP male (but I'm not so sure looking at the thread) you really want to put a 1/2" NPT by barb on the pump ? kinda biggish I think the only barbed sizes are 1/2" and 3/4", no 3/8" we are exploring other options, but molded parts take time and $ this arraignment is not as bad as it may appear, the fill-and-bleed kit is no more its replacement, the MCRES-525 has 3/8" NPT ports which permit a 1/2" barb for the line to the pump inlet, or even a 5/8" barb for a true 1/2" ID system - then the reducing adaptor to 3/8" is only on the pump discharge for our kits

09-24-2004, 06:40 PM	#14
BillA CoolingWorks Tech Guy Formerly "Unregistered" Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Posts: 2,371.493,106 Posts: 4,440	lol, but the trend is going where ? you may have it bassakwards ? reality does not begin with a product announcement on a web page

09-24-2004, 06:42 PM	#15
Etacovda Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Dunedin NZ Posts: 735	I never said which direction the trend was in, I thought better of that

09-24-2004, 07:00 PM	#16
BillA CoolingWorks Tech Guy Formerly "Unregistered" Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Posts: 2,371.493,106 Posts: 4,440	clever, clever and I bit

10-10-2004, 02:19 PM	#17
Zeta09 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Arizona Posts: 26	it works but pics??? Well it worked. But I don't know about pics. I put the tubing in the boiling water for about 3-4 mins and then proceeded on. I still applied vasoline on the inside and the fittings. I must say that the MCP 650 is ok but I did not anticipate the small whirring sound that it emits. It is muffled by the 2 side 120mm ("silent") fans I have but it is somewhat noticeable. I will attempt to post pics later this week. In the meantime thanks for the help. I know have another issue with my video card cooling but I will post that in another section. __________________ My comps are my life My home network here

10-10-2004, 07:55 PM	#18
Tempus Cooling Savant Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 456	my 650 is also rather noisy - much worse than my 600. I've burned it in for 3 days now - gonna give it a week. __________________ Thou art God.

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