Cracked Poly top on WW. Need Fixing or Replacing? - Page 2

pauldenton · 04-14-2005, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wang

"Performance" isn't everything.... think BMW.... what about "Quality" ?

Ok so it's a "quality" Alu top..... they could've gone the extra what? ... 2 feet and specced a Brass or Copper top. I would've gladly paid the difference. "Still" only the Alu or Poly top avail.

both tops with histories of "concerns".

iirc it resulted in a considerably lower price than cathar expected when Dtek started doing Whitewaters about 2 years ago.....iirc they were still the most expensive things on the market (as well as the best...)

Etacovda · 04-14-2005, 09:58 PM

I very much doubt it - look on onlinemetals.com, 6.5mm thick, 50.8mm wide, 60 inch length (enough for 20 block tops) is $55.61, which is $2.70 a top. As a company they will obviously be charged less + buy in a larger quantity.

Obviously cheaper is better for a company, but 'considerably' could be pushing it, when the difference HAS to be less than $2.50 a block. Not insignificant, but shouldnt be a huge factor...

Person thoughts on reasons for alu

lighter (shipping weight)
easier to machine, easier on tools
easier to refinish to make a unique look
cheaper

MadHacker · 04-14-2005, 11:44 PM

Well I decided to put the barbs on the same way jaydee did.
here is a couple pictures...

It was a real pain to do...
Got a nice brown rectangle on my balcony concrete...
Was all black when I finnished but it cleaned up pretty good...
I'll mount it this weekend if I get a chance....

Wang · 04-15-2005, 02:23 AM

Yes, there are always reasons.... the bean counters have lots! I applaud the companies that do go the extra mile tho...!

That is FREAKN cool Madhacker!! I likes!!
Except mine would "bend" the other way!

pauldenton · 04-15-2005, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Etacovda

I very much doubt it - look on onlinemetals.com, 6.5mm thick, 50.8mm wide, 60 inch length (enough for 20 block tops) is $55.61, which is $2.70 a top. As a company they will obviously be charged less + buy in a larger quantity.

Obviously cheaper is better for a company, but 'considerably' could be pushing it, when the difference HAS to be less than $2.50 a block. Not insignificant, but shouldnt be a huge factor...

Person thoughts on reasons for alu

lighter (shipping weight)
easier to machine, easier on tools
easier to refinish to make a unique look
cheaper

pretty sure it was the easier machineability that made the cost difference rather than the raw material cost - which is probably even less than you quote as the original copper LRWW top plate was about 4mm thick (at least mine is)

MadHacker · 04-15-2005, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pauldenton

pretty sure it was the easier machineability that made the cost difference rather than the raw material cost - which is probably even less than you quote as the original copper LRWW top plate was about 4mm thick (at least mine is)

If I knew as was not going to be able to attach my barbs by threading them in like teh original top to the WW i would have bought a 5mm top and saved teh money as well but then again my savings is minimal.

MadHacker · 04-26-2005, 02:01 AM

Well I mounted the block over the weekend

Have a 2.4Ghz P4 @533FSB O/C to 3.3Ghz.
The temperature was hovering around 69-72 deg when it was air cooled. now it Is 39-41 deg. folding 24/7
Also now have pushed the O/C to 3.4 Ghz

04-14-2005, 09:58 PM	#27
Etacovda Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Dunedin NZ Posts: 735	I very much doubt it - look on onlinemetals.com, 6.5mm thick, 50.8mm wide, 60 inch length (enough for 20 block tops) is $55.61, which is $2.70 a top. As a company they will obviously be charged less + buy in a larger quantity. Obviously cheaper is better for a company, but 'considerably' could be pushing it, when the difference HAS to be less than $2.50 a block. Not insignificant, but shouldnt be a huge factor... Person thoughts on reasons for alu lighter (shipping weight) easier to machine, easier on tools easier to refinish to make a unique look cheaper __________________ Hypocritical Signature I tried to delete: Procooling: where scientific principles are ignored because big corporations are immune to mistakes and oversights.

04-14-2005, 11:44 PM	#28
MadHacker Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2003 Location: Okotoks, A.B. Canada Posts: 726	Well I decided to put the barbs on the same way jaydee did. here is a couple pictures... It was a real pain to do... Got a nice brown rectangle on my balcony concrete... Was all black when I finnished but it cleaned up pretty good... I'll mount it this weekend if I get a chance.... __________________ "Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds" - (Einstein)

04-26-2005, 02:01 AM	#32
MadHacker Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2003 Location: Okotoks, A.B. Canada Posts: 726	Well I mounted the block over the weekend Have a 2.4Ghz P4 @533FSB O/C to 3.3Ghz. The temperature was hovering around 69-72 deg when it was air cooled. now it Is 39-41 deg. folding 24/7 Also now have pushed the O/C to 3.4 Ghz __________________ "Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds" - (Einstein)

04-15-2005, 02:23 AM	#29
Wang Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ottawa,ON Posts: 46	Yes, there are always reasons.... the bean counters have lots! I applaud the companies that do go the extra mile tho...! That is FREAKN cool Madhacker!! I likes!! Except mine would "bend" the other way!

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