Upgrading "Snap 1000" specifically

[Ransum]

After looking thru several pages in a thread about upgrading the hard drive in a "SNAP 1000 I still don't know if this can be done. It seems that replies to the post kept going off track to other subjects , not pertaining to the original post. I have a SNAP 1000 15 gig and would gladly upgrade to a larger drive if it is possilble. I have some knowlege of computers and have replaced hard drives, memory, cd roms etc. in MACs and PCs . But I would appreciate specific instructions on the procedure if there is one. All help will be greatly appreciated.

[blue68f100]

Upgrade are possiable. The upgrade procedure is different between v1 and v2 models. One quick way to check to see if you have a v1. Remove the HD and see if you can connect to the snap. If so it's a v1.

V1 has the OS stored in flashram. Just replace the drive, the snap will format and install the OS. You will not beable to connect while it is setting up the OS, for about 10 minutes.

V2 has the OS stored on the hd. You will have to copy the boot (os) tracks to the new drive with dd from the Knoppix CD, or other unix system. The wiki section has examples of how the dd process works.

At least you are catching yours before the HD fails.

[Ransum]

Thanks
will check for version 1 or 2 . I am not familiar with Knoppix, I am used macs with OSX panther 10.3.9

[blue68f100]

Mac's will work if it has a IDE controller. Just need to get to a terminal window/mode. dd is ran from terminal mode. Comes with most unix systems.

[Ransum]

I downloaded Koppix at home usinf DSL , it took all nite and still wasn' t finished when I left for work. My wife says it is done now . After getting here I found a program called Accelerated Knoppix from a Japanese company. I am downloading it now and its going faster because our DSL here at work is faster. According to the web page it is supposed to boot from the cd faster than th original Knoppix. I will post the download site later if it works. Thanks so much for your help.

[Ransum]

Also I could not make contact with the snap when I removed the hard drive so the OS is actually hidden on the drive like you said meaning I have version 2 .

[blue68f100]

Accelerated Kinnopix want help you, if you got the original. dd hasn't changed in years.

Do you have access to a PC. If not there was a recent users that did it with a mac and mentioned which program he used.

[Ransum]

I do have a PC . I downloaded both programs on MACS. Shouldn't I be able to burn it onto a disk and boot the PC with it? Do you know how big a drive I can use? Will most any ATA hard drive work? Walmart sells a 160G pretty cheap. I may have more questions when I start the procedure. Thanks

[blue68f100]

You should have downloaded a ISO image file, for KnoppixCD. Use Toast to burn the image. I believe toast gives you option to select an image file. HD are cheap, but you want reliability in a server. I recommend purchasing Seagates or Hitachi drives. Most all ATA100 drives will work. DO NOT BUY any drive that has EIDE interface. This interface is found on some models of Maxtors and WD. Maxtors are the low end drives, use a lot of plastic for internal parts where everybody else uses metal. The only drive that WD makes thats any good, is the Raptor's. Most v2 1000 supports Large disk >137gig. I see alot of 250gig for around $90.00. The last drive I bought was a Hitachi 250 gig for $69 after rebates.

[Ransum]

I guess I missed something.The instructions tell me to copy the file snap##00.bin using knoppix to the hard drive c: . Where do I copy the file from. and then it says to download the knoppix cd. If I used it to copy the file it must be already downloaded. I downloaded the Knoppix file to my mac. Then I burned it on a cd. Do I then dowload it somewhere else. I put the cd in my PC and tried to boot from the cd and it doesn't bootup. I also took the 15 gig drive out of the snap server and put it in my Gateway PC. The drive wouldn't show up in "My computer" as Drive E: but in device manager it shows up as a hard drive and says this device is working properly. If I could speak with someone by phone maybe I could get this thing going. Thanks

[blue68f100]

Don't let windows touch the drive or All will Be LOST. Windows can not read the Unix XFS file system.
I sent you a PM with the info you requested.

[badbob001]

Looking at my Snap 1000 v2 motherboard, it looks like it has two IDE connectors. But if I try to connect anything to the second connector, the device does not startup. If I connect two drives to the original connector, it starts fine. So is there no way to have two drives on two different IDE channels?

Thanks!

[re3dyb0y]

The 1000 is designed for 1 drive, and to my knowledge only supports that

However, success has been obtained using 2 drives on 1 IDE channel...

You could unlock it to a larger unit, but that can cause major problems

[blue68f100]

I don't recomend this hack, UNLESS YOU DON'T CARE TO LOOSE IT .

Every one that has tried with maybe 1 execption have failed due to the unit rebooting before they change a setting back. So Turn off auto reboot. Even doing this may not help if you change something that kills it.

ANY CHANGES MADE IT THE BIOS SECTION IS RISKY

[badbob001]

Originally Posted by blue68f100

I don't recomend this hack, UNLESS YOU DON'T CARE TO LOOSE IT .

Every one that has tried with maybe 1 execption have failed due to the unit rebooting before they change a setting back. So Turn off auto reboot. Even doing this may not help if you change something that kills it.

ANY CHANGES MADE IT THE BIOS SECTION IS RISKY

Are you responding about the hack on setting the bios to model 0 so the v1000 can use two harddrives on one ide channel? I'm planning to use raid1 with my v1000. Is that a bad idea?

[blue68f100]

Lets say 1 out of 1000 works. Pretty bad odds. Only one person got the right combo. A little insite. I think the snap os looks at the serial no as well as platform bytes to know what it is suppose to be. The reason for failure. A 1000v2 is an early model of the 1100. The 1100 is the only model that uses the same file set as a 2200. The 1000 is all by it self. Shares no files with other models. The reason for failure.

If you are set on trying there is a auto reboot in the same section. set to manual. So you can get all of your settings set, without it re-booting on you, till you are ready.

If it boots and comes up with the sys and disk led flash together once then the disk led blinks twice. YOU NOW HAVE A DOOR STOP.

[Ransum]

blue68f100
thanks so much for all your help . I installed the 40 gig drive I copied to in the snap and was able to get into to the admin program , but it tells me there are no hard disk avaialable, I think its because this hard disk was partitioned . I am going to go ahead and buy the 250 gig drive and then triy again. Thanks again.

[blue68f100]

Did you remember to change the jumper back to master?

[Ransum]

I went thru the whole procedure again and this time the new drive works, only it doesn't recognize the drive as 40 gig . Actually after format with the command line you gave me the drive shows up as a smaller drive than the original 15 gig. The 15 gig shows as 14.?? and the 40 gig reads 13.?? , (can,t remember the exact figures) I believe it has got some thing to do with the fact that there are partitions on the 40 gig but I have been unsuccesssful in trying to delete the partitions using fdisk. Does that sound like the problem? Not sure therefore I still haven't bought the 250 gig yet .

[blue68f100]

I thought "co de format 10000 /reinit" would take the full drive. But most persons have installed new drives.

Remember, you must have 3.4.805 or v4 for hd >137gig.

[Noise]

I want to thank everyone on these forums. With this help and the wiki I was able to update my Snap Server 1000 to 80GB. I have a few note on issues I has upgrading the Snap and thought I'd share them.

• First of all, before you unscrew the bottom of your Snap 1000, pull out the power button with a pair of needle-nose pliers. Just pull it straight out, it won't break. This seems like it should be obovious, but it took me like 10 minutes to figure out what was keeping me from opening the case.
  
• I upgraded my Snap 1000 with a Western Digital 80GB hard Disk (WD80BB) - someone may want to update the WIKI? My Snap was the version with the OS on the Hard Drive. My OS is v3.4.803 (can someone help me get the v3.4.807 version?)
  
• I followed the procedure on the WIKI for "Disk to Disk" imaging. The process went smoothly, it seemed to go too smoothly - when I ran the command:
  "dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb bs=1024k count=20" (as stated in the wiki)
  it executed instantly, it didn't take the couple minutes that the wiki said it might. This kind of threw me off. I used Knoppix version 5 (the wiki example uses knoppix 4, but it doesn't make a difference) - it worked fine.
  
• Here is a important issue. When I put the newly imaged hard disk into the Snap 1000, it started up OK. I thought, "cool" but when I tried to run the following command from the Snap's debug page (http://snap/config/debug):
  "co de format 10000 /reinit" (as stated in the wiki)
  I got a "no disk present" error! Well, I looked and sure enough the disk was still there It turned out that this error was due to the fact that I had the jumper on the drive set to "master" - when I set the jumper to "cable select" the disk was recognized by the system. This was a tricky thing, because the Snap would boot with the jumper in either position, but would only recognize the disk in the "cable select" configuration.
  
• And finally, when you execute the "co de format 10000 /reinit" command you need to restart the Snap for the format process to actually begin. I was just sitting there twiddling my thumbs until I realized this. Just enter the command "reboot" after you enter the above command. When the system reboots you you can check the progress of the reformat in the logs (http://snap/config?Func=ServerLogSend). You will need to set Severity = Everything on that page to see the progress. You will see a "Format complete" message in the log when it's done, just keep refreshing. My 80GB drive took about 5 minutes to format.

I hope this information may help someone trying to upgrade their Snap 1000 Hard Disk.

[jontz]

Thanks for the follow up, always appreciated!