The Iwill 760MPX board.

Brad · 01-10-2002, 02:51 AM

http://www.pcgameworld.co.nz/ubbcgi/...c&f=4&t=000016

well, it has 2x 3 phase for the cpu's, and a seperate vrm for the graphics, it has 6 pci, no raid, no lan, no sound. plenty of room around the cpu sockets.

I'm happy

LiquidCool · 01-10-2002, 02:59 AM

SCHWEET! look at the size of those capacitors! hefty power section!

Joe · 01-10-2002, 03:16 AM

Its Iwill.... Iwill-break-twice-as-much-as-the-single-cpu-boards.

IWill sucks!

Brad · 01-10-2002, 03:24 AM

/me ignores Joe's comment

LC, it has an awesome power setup, ideal for our heavily overclocked setups.

Joe · 01-10-2002, 03:27 AM

Ignore all you want. Its not me who will be using a POS board and crying about it later.

Jonas · 01-10-2002, 09:45 AM

i have the same opinion of msi and epox. look around the net and all you see is praise and ooo's and aaaaa's, then visit thoer forums. if you visit the msi forum you get about 45 posts from DIFFERENT people all who have a nice shiny new 266a board that was doa; a freind of mine bought one of these despite my objections, and his showed up doa. i just sat back and laughed while i helped him find a nice reliable board to buy. epox has been screwing people since way before i built my first. they screwed the hell outta me with that kx133(?) board which got stellar reviews, and 90% of which showed up either doa, or intermittently fscked up.

only had one iwill board and it was a POS as well. trust the names that treat you right. Asus, Abit, Gigabyte, Tyan these companies have good track records. i'll wait till some one i trust puts out a board...then i will wait another month to check the forums and see if its getting a healthy bashing yet, THEN i buy. afterall whats the rush?

Joe · 01-10-2002, 01:11 PM

Jonas, I also have alot of hate for Epox. Between Epox and Iwill there are few companies that have screwed me like they have.

Mainly with past products at past jobs, but the epox nightmare of their socket 7 boards STILL haunt me.

Brad · 01-10-2002, 03:20 PM

I have so many friends in the industry here that if a board dies, I just rma it, and get a new one immediately. So reliability isn't an issue to me.

Jonas · 01-10-2002, 03:30 PM

/me breaks out the Idiot Translator

"I have so many friends in the industry here that if a board dies, I just rma it, and get a new one immediately. So reliability isn't an issue to me."

translated version:

"I hear what you are saying;but i don't care. I like waiting for new motherboards. I like down time. I'd buy powdered rocks if i could find a company to sell them to me."

do what you want. "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink"

Joe · 01-10-2002, 03:41 PM

See, us in the Pro/Chat will have to deal with his crying when it doesnt work, thats why I don't want him to get one

hehehe

Also Brad doesnt have good luck with stuff that makes that much heat... Dual Athlons a pretty hot, and last time he messed with a pelt he almost had a fire

Brad I dunno about you but I normally wait for good products to come out, instead of blowing my money on stuff thats broke when it ships. maybe you have more free time to deal with retarded RMA people...

Stability is key with dual CPU systems. Stability is an afterthought for Iwill... some day they need to staff up their Q/A dept, cause I am pretty sure they fired them all a few years ago...

"Q/A.... we dont need no stink'n Q/A"

LiquidCool · 01-10-2002, 04:14 PM

powdered rocks?

dont know why but I'm laughing histarically

Brad · 01-10-2002, 04:59 PM

heh, I have my laptop for stability.

my 172w pelts have been running for a couple of days now without a single problem. it looks like that first pelt just died because it was faulty.

I'm not really interested in speed, I am more than happy with the speed of my laptop, I just like messing around

jaydee · 01-13-2002, 04:51 PM

I am on my 3rd Epox 8K7A in which everyone of them has worked extreamly well. My Abit KT7A is holding it's own. The ASUS A7V I had was ok. The MSI K7T Turbo-R I had was decent. Never a problem with any of them. Havn't been screwed but 1 time, and that was a Socket 7 board built by Dimond. What a POS that was.

Brad · 01-13-2002, 06:28 PM

I think a lot of companies weren't up to scratch a couple of years ago, but now I hear of very few failures

Neos Pirahnis · 01-14-2002, 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe
Ignore all you want. Its not me who will be using a POS board and crying about it later.

I totally agree with ya joe, lets stick to our Thunder K7's

Bollocks · 01-14-2002, 08:02 AM

Someone mentioned asus mobos further up.

If you want to buy an asus mobo in Western Australia u might as well just order one from the eastern states.

The main distributor here had a huge blue with asus, when they recieved a huge shipment of motherboards with problems. The downside being, these werent minor faults, these boards had CNR sockets soldered onto the board instead of an AGP socket, and all PCI slots down the line of a motherboard that was supposed to have 2 ISA slots (and even had the solder marks and traces for the ISA slots.

The downside being, if someone accidentally got the board and tried to use it, ASUS would refuse to rma the board because their excuse was that it was the customers fault. Yes they must have unsoldered the sockets and put their OWN ones on!

So beware of asus too, but then we get screwed over here, as i think the only options i currently have for boards are abit, aopen or MSI, and that choice is pretty shite at the best of times

Brad · 01-14-2002, 02:43 PM

over here, epox, iwill, abit, tyan, gigabyte, asus, dfi, soltek are easy to get hold of.

Chaintech, Supermicro, Soyo are the only ones I'd like to see good distro's for

mashie · 01-14-2002, 09:49 PM

My EpoX 8K7A+ works like a charm so does my ASUS CUSL2-M, ASUS CUPLE-VM and MSI 6119.

On the other hand I had major problems with a SuperMicro P6DLE (dual LX) which I had replaced three times over a year and that was supposed to be a workstation mobo...

pHaestus · 01-15-2002, 09:27 PM

haha That is funny about the Asus with CNR slots soldered odd places. My friend had to RMA an A7V-133, and the replacement came back with no atx power connector; only the solder points. He had to send it back again, where Asus apparently lost all record of it. The entire deal took 18 weeks.

Kevin · 01-28-2002, 03:52 AM

Abit and Soyo have screwed me more than any other company. Abits rule, but die. Soyos suck and die. I love IWILL boards! I've had two and they rule!
-Kev

beav · 01-28-2002, 08:42 AM

Joe and a couple of other people on the chat warned me not to get my dual p3 iWill board, but i went ahead and got it anyway. Right now, it's been 3 weeks, and i still havne't seen or head from iWill about my RMA'd board.

The onboard LAN was broke, it didn't detect the CPU at the correct default speed, (which is essential for intels as they have locked multipliers), and BSOD 9 times out of 10 when trying to load windows.

Eh...Better luck next time

WebMasta33 · 01-28-2002, 10:19 AM

Am I the ONLY person who's never had a component die on them?

I overclock, I never follow static safty. Hell, I've even slid a hard drive 8' across a carpet! And it didn't have a problem. (I freaked out thinking I killed it imadiatly after I did it, but oh well :P)

I've fixed tons of computers with broken this and that, but never personally had ANYTHING die on me. *crosses fingers* Except for Windows of course

I've always had Abit boards, always had Sound Blast Sound cards, always had Sony based monitors (21" trinitron...yummy!), always had IBM hard drives... Other than that, I buy what's cheap. Like my 8x Nec DVD drive that I've had for 2 years. And my 12x8x32 Sony Burner that I've had for 2 years.

Until I personally have a problem with a company, I'll stick with it.

Brad · 01-28-2002, 06:08 PM

I have had a 2gb Quantum Bigfoot hdd die on me for no apparent reason, but apart from that absolutely nothing, I think I'm just lucky.

I never bother about anything static wise ever, normally I touch the case or something before working on it, but nothing else

Pyrotechnic · 02-03-2002, 05:52 PM

why buy a dual cpu board from a company that cant even make a working single cpu board ? iWill-be-the-biggest-piece-of-crap-that-you-have-ever-bought. Epox socket 7 boards were pretty crappy, i agree with you on that one, but this Epox 8KHA+ seems to be fine so it looks like Epox has cleaned up a little.

01-10-2002, 02:51 AM	#1
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	The Iwill 760MPX board. http://www.pcgameworld.co.nz/ubbcgi/...c&f=4&t=000016 well, it has 2x 3 phase for the cpu's, and a seperate vrm for the graphics, it has 6 pci, no raid, no lan, no sound. plenty of room around the cpu sockets. I'm happy

01-10-2002, 03:16 AM	#3
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	Its Iwill.... Iwill-break-twice-as-much-as-the-single-cpu-boards. IWill sucks! __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

01-10-2002, 03:27 AM	#5
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	Ignore all you want. Its not me who will be using a POS board and crying about it later. __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

01-10-2002, 09:45 AM	#6
Jonas Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Jackson, MI Posts: 94	i have the same opinion of msi and epox. look around the net and all you see is praise and ooo's and aaaaa's, then visit thoer forums. if you visit the msi forum you get about 45 posts from DIFFERENT people all who have a nice shiny new 266a board that was doa; a freind of mine bought one of these despite my objections, and his showed up doa. i just sat back and laughed while i helped him find a nice reliable board to buy. epox has been screwing people since way before i built my first. they screwed the hell outta me with that kx133(?) board which got stellar reviews, and 90% of which showed up either doa, or intermittently fscked up. only had one iwill board and it was a POS as well. trust the names that treat you right. Asus, Abit, Gigabyte, Tyan these companies have good track records. i'll wait till some one i trust puts out a board...then i will wait another month to check the forums and see if its getting a healthy bashing yet, THEN i buy. afterall whats the rush? __________________ "...as soon as you're born you start dying; so you might as well have a good time..."

01-10-2002, 01:11 PM	#7
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	Jonas, I also have alot of hate for Epox. Between Epox and Iwill there are few companies that have screwed me like they have. Mainly with past products at past jobs, but the epox nightmare of their socket 7 boards STILL haunt me. __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

01-10-2002, 02:59 AM	#2
LiquidCool Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Central Florida Posts: 231	SCHWEET! look at the size of those capacitors! hefty power section!

01-10-2002, 03:24 AM	#4
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	/me ignores Joe's comment LC, it has an awesome power setup, ideal for our heavily overclocked setups.

01-10-2002, 03:20 PM	#8
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	I have so many friends in the industry here that if a board dies, I just rma it, and get a new one immediately. So reliability isn't an issue to me.

01-10-2002, 03:30 PM	#9
Jonas Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Jackson, MI Posts: 94	/me breaks out the Idiot Translator "I have so many friends in the industry here that if a board dies, I just rma it, and get a new one immediately. So reliability isn't an issue to me." translated version: "I hear what you are saying;but i don't care. I like waiting for new motherboards. I like down time. I'd buy powdered rocks if i could find a company to sell them to me." do what you want. "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink" __________________ "...as soon as you're born you start dying; so you might as well have a good time..."

01-10-2002, 03:41 PM	#10
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	See, us in the Pro/Chat will have to deal with his crying when it doesnt work, thats why I don't want him to get one hehehe Also Brad doesnt have good luck with stuff that makes that much heat... Dual Athlons a pretty hot, and last time he messed with a pelt he almost had a fire Brad I dunno about you but I normally wait for good products to come out, instead of blowing my money on stuff thats broke when it ships. maybe you have more free time to deal with retarded RMA people... Stability is key with dual CPU systems. Stability is an afterthought for Iwill... some day they need to staff up their Q/A dept, cause I am pretty sure they fired them all a few years ago... "Q/A.... we dont need no stink'n Q/A" __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

01-10-2002, 04:14 PM	#11
LiquidCool Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Central Florida Posts: 231	powdered rocks? dont know why but I'm laughing histarically

01-10-2002, 04:59 PM	#12
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	heh, I have my laptop for stability. my 172w pelts have been running for a couple of days now without a single problem. it looks like that first pelt just died because it was faulty. I'm not really interested in speed, I am more than happy with the speed of my laptop, I just like messing around

01-13-2002, 04:51 PM	#13
jaydee Put up or Shut Up Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 6,506	I am on my 3rd Epox 8K7A in which everyone of them has worked extreamly well. My Abit KT7A is holding it's own. The ASUS A7V I had was ok. The MSI K7T Turbo-R I had was decent. Never a problem with any of them. Havn't been screwed but 1 time, and that was a Socket 7 board built by Dimond. What a POS that was.

01-13-2002, 06:28 PM	#14
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	I think a lot of companies weren't up to scratch a couple of years ago, but now I hear of very few failures

01-14-2002, 08:02 AM	#16
Bollocks Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Australia Posts: 54	Someone mentioned asus mobos further up. If you want to buy an asus mobo in Western Australia u might as well just order one from the eastern states. The main distributor here had a huge blue with asus, when they recieved a huge shipment of motherboards with problems. The downside being, these werent minor faults, these boards had CNR sockets soldered onto the board instead of an AGP socket, and all PCI slots down the line of a motherboard that was supposed to have 2 ISA slots (and even had the solder marks and traces for the ISA slots. The downside being, if someone accidentally got the board and tried to use it, ASUS would refuse to rma the board because their excuse was that it was the customers fault. Yes they must have unsoldered the sockets and put their OWN ones on! So beware of asus too, but then we get screwed over here, as i think the only options i currently have for boards are abit, aopen or MSI, and that choice is pretty shite at the best of times __________________ Bollocks -------------- Celeron 466@525 stable Plans for H20 setup in HX08

01-14-2002, 02:43 PM	#17
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	over here, epox, iwill, abit, tyan, gigabyte, asus, dfi, soltek are easy to get hold of. Chaintech, Supermicro, Soyo are the only ones I'd like to see good distro's for

01-14-2002, 09:49 PM	#18
mashie Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Reading, UK Posts: 149	My EpoX 8K7A+ works like a charm so does my ASUS CUSL2-M, ASUS CUPLE-VM and MSI 6119. On the other hand I had major problems with a SuperMicro P6DLE (dual LX) which I had replaced three times over a year and that was supposed to be a workstation mobo... __________________ mashie

01-15-2002, 09:27 PM	#19
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	haha That is funny about the Asus with CNR slots soldered odd places. My friend had to RMA an A7V-133, and the replacement came back with no atx power connector; only the solder points. He had to send it back again, where Asus apparently lost all record of it. The entire deal took 18 weeks.

01-28-2002, 03:52 AM	#20
Kevin Slacking more than your weird uncle Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: San Diego, CA (UCSD) / Los Angeles, CA (home) Posts: 1,605	Abit and Soyo have screwed me more than any other company. Abits rule, but die. Soyos suck and die. I love IWILL boards! I've had two and they rule! -Kev __________________ I used to throw hot coffee all over the ass of the horse there, then whip him while he was kickin' at me. Those f***in things are crazy.

01-28-2002, 08:42 AM	#21
beav Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Danville Posts: 96	Joe and a couple of other people on the chat warned me not to get my dual p3 iWill board, but i went ahead and got it anyway. Right now, it's been 3 weeks, and i still havne't seen or head from iWill about my RMA'd board. The onboard LAN was broke, it didn't detect the CPU at the correct default speed, (which is essential for intels as they have locked multipliers), and BSOD 9 times out of 10 when trying to load windows. Eh...Better luck next time __________________ What a chump.

01-28-2002, 10:19 AM	#22
WebMasta33 Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Nebraska Posts: 526	Am I the ONLY person who's never had a component die on them? I overclock, I never follow static safty. Hell, I've even slid a hard drive 8' across a carpet! And it didn't have a problem. (I freaked out thinking I killed it imadiatly after I did it, but oh well :P) I've fixed tons of computers with broken this and that, but never personally had ANYTHING die on me. crosses fingers Except for Windows of course I've always had Abit boards, always had Sound Blast Sound cards, always had Sony based monitors (21" trinitron...yummy!), always had IBM hard drives... Other than that, I buy what's cheap. Like my 8x Nec DVD drive that I've had for 2 years. And my 12x8x32 Sony Burner that I've had for 2 years. Until I personally have a problem with a company, I'll stick with it. __________________ ========== --Soyo KT333 DRAGON Ultra (Platinum Edition) --AMD 1.4 @ 1.54 (11x) --768mb of PC2100 (@140FSB) --Asus v8200 GeForce3 @ 210/490 --Maxtor 40gb Quiet + 2 IBM 40gb 60GXPs (removable) + 8gb WD --Audigy --Maze 3, DD Gf3 block, 2x BIX, Eheim1250 ===========

01-28-2002, 06:08 PM	#23
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	I have had a 2gb Quantum Bigfoot hdd die on me for no apparent reason, but apart from that absolutely nothing, I think I'm just lucky. I never bother about anything static wise ever, normally I touch the case or something before working on it, but nothing else __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

02-03-2002, 05:52 PM	#24
Pyrotechnic Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 240	why buy a dual cpu board from a company that cant even make a working single cpu board ? iWill-be-the-biggest-piece-of-crap-that-you-have-ever-bought. Epox socket 7 boards were pretty crappy, i agree with you on that one, but this Epox 8KHA+ seems to be fine so it looks like Epox has cleaned up a little.

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