Can you run gigabit ethernet on Snap Servers?

jhuehne · 12-22-2005, 07:11 AM

I have two Quantum Snap 2000 servers, as well as a Quantum Snap 4000, and Dell 705N (snap 4100 oem). I'm wondering if there is a way to upgrade any of these to use gigabit ethernet?

Has anyone tried this?

blue68f100 · 12-22-2005, 08:39 AM

Not to my knowledge. The chips are soldered in. Then you would have a driver issue. There would be no performance gain. They are unable to match the 100mbps now.

David

Davesworld · 01-01-2006, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by blue68f100

Not to my knowledge. The chips are soldered in. Then you would have a driver issue. There would be no performance gain. They are unable to match the 100mbps now.

David

I believe SnapOS 4 has gigabit capability and it does show up in the debug section. I also believe it is a Realtek driver. As far as performance gain, what you said is true of the 2000 but the 4000 series can saturate a 100mbs connection with only one drive let alone raid. Other than the lack of a newer Promise driver for the 4100/Dell705N, thus limiting each drive to 137GB, they could be kickass enough to make a 1TB+ raid server and benefit from a gigabit chip. Of course, 1000mbs would be the line speed and you would not likely hit even 500mbs with this hardware but even doubling the current throughput of the 4100 would be a great help. The newer than 4100 snaps have expansion and the P4 based ones have gigabit nics in them already as well as using Guardian OS which is Linux based, not BSD as SnapOS is.

TobySmurf · 09-29-2006, 07:04 AM

The OS does support it - my 14000 unit comes with a couple gigabit interfaces.

Phoenix32 · 09-29-2006, 08:13 AM

But the 14000 is a Guardian unit is it not?

TobySmurf · 09-29-2006, 09:46 AM

It had gigabit when it was running SnapOS 2.6 as well.

TobySmurf · 09-29-2006, 09:46 AM

but yes the unit itself is labelled as a guardian not a SNAP

re3dyb0y · 09-29-2006, 11:23 AM

Toby - 2.6 i believe is/was a version of the Guardian OS

v2.4 was the Snap OS in that range

TobySmurf · 09-29-2006, 04:13 PM

Possibly, but it did call itself snapos on the unit itself.

blue68f100 · 09-29-2006, 04:14 PM

Must be using Snap as Generic Term.

TobySmurf · 09-29-2006, 04:16 PM

It could be. I just bought guardian OS 4.2 and now it says guardian instead of snap. Plus it added a ton of features :-)

Hallis · 09-29-2006, 06:04 PM

To answer the origonal poster. No, At least it wouldnt be worth it. Just upgrade to a unit that already has it. And sell me the old ones

Shane

jontz · 10-01-2006, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Hallis

To answer the origonal poster. No, At least it wouldnt be worth it. Just upgrade to a unit that already has it. And sell me the old ones

Shane

Ohhhh trust me. If I could upgrade the old 4100 to gigabit, it WOULD be worth it...I have more time than money.

Hallis · 10-01-2006, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jontz

Ohhhh trust me. If I could upgrade the old 4100 to gigabit, it WOULD be worth it...I have more time than money.

Yep, gigabit ethernet, no greater than 480gb of total storage. Well, at least you'd be able to offload the drive fairly quickly. Especially in RAID5, but you'd better be transfering it to a RAID5 to realize the full bandwidth. lol

Shane

jontz · 10-02-2006, 03:16 PM

You're telling me that you would rather have 12.5MB/sec transfer rate rather than the full 35-40/sec that a normal computer can handle, regardless of space? Hmmm....

Hallis · 10-02-2006, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jontz

You're telling me that you would rather have 12.5MB/sec transfer rate rather than the full 35-40/sec that a normal computer can handle, regardless of space? Hmmm....

I'd rather have tha massive storage in total. I use my 1100 for streaming to my xbox and it works beautifully.

Shane

jontz · 10-02-2006, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Hallis

I'd rather have tha massive storage in total. I use my 1100 for streaming to my xbox and it works beautifully.

Shane

Well YEAH, we all would, but if I could get gigabit on my 4100, I would be a happy camper. 480GB of space is nothing to sneeze at.

Davesworld · 10-05-2006, 08:29 PM

I know that the SnapOS 4.x supports at least the RealTek version of a gigachip. If it's pin for pin compatible with the one in the Snap 4100's, could be a nice soldering project.

jontz · 10-06-2006, 04:53 PM

Hmmm...now I have something to research. Thanks for the info!

blue68f100 · 10-06-2006, 05:51 PM

Davesworld,

Where did you read about the chip support?

And what others new features were added?

Always seeking knowledge....

12-22-2005, 07:11 AM	#1
jhuehne Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA Posts: 9	Can you run gigabit ethernet on Snap Servers? I have two Quantum Snap 2000 servers, as well as a Quantum Snap 4000, and Dell 705N (snap 4100 oem). I'm wondering if there is a way to upgrade any of these to use gigabit ethernet? Has anyone tried this?

12-22-2005, 08:39 AM	#2
blue68f100 Thermophile Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 3,135	Re: Can you run gigabit ethernet on Snap Servers? Not to my knowledge. The chips are soldered in. Then you would have a driver issue. There would be no performance gain. They are unable to match the 100mbps now. David

09-29-2006, 07:04 AM	#4
TobySmurf Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 10	Re: Can you run gigabit ethernet on Snap Servers? The OS does support it - my 14000 unit comes with a couple gigabit interfaces.

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09-29-2006, 11:23 AM	#8
re3dyb0y Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: UK Posts: 909	Re: Can you run gigabit ethernet on Snap Servers? Toby - 2.6 i believe is/was a version of the Guardian OS v2.4 was the Snap OS in that range __________________ Snap Server Help Wiki - http://wiki.procooling.com/index.php/Snap_Server Snap Server 2200 v3.4.807 2x 250GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 w/ UNIDFC601512M Replacement Fan "Did you really think it would be that easy??" Other NAS's 1x NSLU2 w/ 512mb Corsair Flash Voyager Running Unslung 6.8b 1x NSLU2 w/ 8Gb LaCie Carte Orange Running Debian/NSLU2 Stable 4.0r0 250GB LaCie Ethernet Disk Running Windows XP Embedded

09-29-2006, 04:13 PM	#9
TobySmurf Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 10	Re: Can you run gigabit ethernet on Snap Servers? Possibly, but it did call itself snapos on the unit itself.

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09-29-2006, 04:16 PM	#11
TobySmurf Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 10	Re: Can you run gigabit ethernet on Snap Servers? It could be. I just bought guardian OS 4.2 and now it says guardian instead of snap. Plus it added a ton of features :-)

09-29-2006, 06:04 PM	#12
Hallis Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Dallas, Tx Posts: 469	Re: Can you run gigabit ethernet on Snap Servers? To answer the origonal poster. No, At least it wouldnt be worth it. Just upgrade to a unit that already has it. And sell me the old ones Shane __________________ Snap Servers: 1100 - 1x300gb Seagate Baracuda (SnapOS Version 3.4.807) 2200 - 2x80gb Maxtor (one dead) (SnapOS 4.0.860)

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jontz Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: South Bend, IN Posts: 385	Re: Can you run gigabit ethernet on Snap Servers? You're telling me that you would rather have 12.5MB/sec transfer rate rather than the full 35-40/sec that a normal computer can handle, regardless of space? Hmmm.... __________________ Snap Server 4100, 4x120GB Seagate Drives, RAID 5, version 3.4.803

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Davesworld Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Seattle, Wa Posts: 45	Re: Can you run gigabit ethernet on Snap Servers? I know that the SnapOS 4.x supports at least the RealTek version of a gigachip. If it's pin for pin compatible with the one in the Snap 4100's, could be a nice soldering project.

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blue68f100 Thermophile Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 3,135	Re: Can you run gigabit ethernet on Snap Servers? Davesworld, Where did you read about the chip support? And what others new features were added? Always seeking knowledge.... __________________ 1 Snap 4500 - 1.0T (4 x 250gig WD2500SB RE), Raid5, 1 Snap 4500 - 1.6T (4 x 400gig Seagates), Raid5, 1 Snap 4200 - 4.0T (4 x 2gig Seagates), Raid5, Using SATA converts from Andy Link to SnapOS FAQ's http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=13820

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