12volt Water pump goodness - Page 2

bigben2k · 06-05-2002, 02:40 PM

Got it...
$440.:shrug:

Cyco-Dude · 06-05-2002, 04:20 PM

only $440!?? ill take two!!!
hehe...

jtroutma · 06-05-2002, 04:21 PM

Bummer though....

Sounded like a great replacement..

Stepback · 06-06-2002, 12:07 AM

I have been ruuning this thing for a week and the temps have stablized at 37c case/36c cpu. The case temp is wrong as MSI put the case temp sensor right next to the northbridge. The temp in the room is around 24c. These temps are about 6-8 degs better then the old pump I was using. I would like to post the pics I took but can't find the software disk for my camara

scopEDog · 06-17-2002, 08:53 AM

Hey Stepback, what fittings are on that pump? They look a bit small

bigben2k · 06-17-2002, 10:07 AM

Connections are (as stated earlier) 3/4 ID.

scopEDog · 06-17-2002, 10:17 AM

Thanks bigben2k (sorry i totally missed it)..I would like to try this pump...although the cost is keeping my purchase at "maybe"

nemaste · 06-17-2002, 10:41 AM

sounds interesting. i'm curious if these pumps will be practical in the long term for h2o ppl. if you end up getting an itch to experiment with it, i'd be curious to see if you can easily swap out that stock motor on the Jabsco for a hotter one. it looks like a common 540 size, so a "modified" R/C car motor might work.:shrug:

Stepback · 06-17-2002, 10:54 AM

Here is a picture of the pump in action. The elbows are 1/2 brass and the barbs are 3/8 as that is what my becooling jaged edge has.

And here is a pic of the top of the res...

Stepback · 06-17-2002, 11:22 AM

Here's a screenshot with wucpuid running and mbm5 dash. Plus procooling in the backgorund

(of course!)

maskedgeek · 06-19-2002, 11:40 PM

hey stepback, how much was the pump, you never said, they have this thing at och, but dont buy it there.... im interested in knowing were to find this pump.... for how much.

Stepback · 06-20-2002, 12:13 AM

You can get it here http://www.go2marine.com/frameset.js...d/51034F/&df=2 or just do a search for the part number (jabsco 59500-0012).

awesterink · 07-16-2002, 12:34 PM

Stepback,

With the pump mounted in the case, do you notice any sort of hum or vibration when it is running (even the slightest bit)? The hum of my Eheim 1048 pump is seriously amplified by my case, so I'm looking for something as close to silent as possible. Plus a 12V hookup to the PSU is nice

Also, what type of reducer would I need to go to 1/2" ID tubing?

bigben2k · 07-16-2002, 12:56 PM

FYI, it goes for about $100.00 (one hundred).

Sanjuro · 07-16-2002, 01:11 PM

wow thats one expensive little pump.. Its a dc motor driving the impeller magnet right? Wonder how long it will take the brushings to wear out

Stepback · 07-18-2002, 06:21 AM

awesterink: You will need 3/4 to 1/2 reducers and the pump is every quiet. I can't hear it at all. While i was building my res and full system I had it screwed to my metal garage door and still couldn't hear it running. I have to a couple fingers on it to make sure it's still on.

Sanjuro: Yes. It a DC motor driving a magnetic coupler so the inpeller is in a sealed housing and there are no seals on the motor shaft. The mfg states that the brush life is 2500 hrs.

awesterink · 07-18-2002, 07:54 AM

Thanks. But 2500hrs? Wow...$100 for a pump that is rated to last about 100 days....hmmmm. Do you plan to replace the brushes?

Stepback · 07-19-2002, 12:13 AM

I don't think it will wear out as quickly as the mfg thinks it will. I work as an instrument repair tech at a bio tech company. We have some 12v dc pumps that are rated to last for 1500 hrs. that have been on machines for over 5 years. These machines run almost 24/7/365 and pump some of the nastiest chemicals on the planet. We have more problems with seals going bad in the pump head than the motors burning out. And we just change the seals and reuse the pumps. I would have used one of these pumps for my water cooler but they only have 1/8 fittings and pump 5 to 30 mil a minute depending on the speed of the motor. One other problem with that pump is at full blast it draws 5 amps.

nexxo · 07-29-2002, 04:52 PM

Very useful stuff, Stepback! Just one more question before I rush off to the shop: how hot does the pump run? Can you touch it after a couple of hours? Could you slap a thermistor on it and give ma a ballpark temperature reading?

Wayne Harrow · 07-30-2002, 02:13 PM

Aint that just the same as the new overclockers hideout pump?

Sanjuro · 07-30-2002, 02:17 PM

They look very similiar, I wonder...

nexxo · 07-30-2002, 02:24 PM

Yes, they're the same thing. Moreover, the Jabsco 59500-0012 is also known as the Johnson CM10P7-1.

bigben2k · 07-30-2002, 02:30 PM

Yeah but can you get them any cheaper than $100.00?

nexxo · 07-30-2002, 02:42 PM

What do you want, blood?

Nope, the prices for both makes of this pump are more or less the same: about $93,--

ECUPirate · 07-30-2002, 03:15 PM

you said temps were about 6-8c lower w/ the new pump... what were you running b4?

....sidenote: It's hotter than hell here.. It's got to be about 100F here, w/ high humidity. Also, I've been running prime95 for a few hours, and so the rad on my PC is acting as a space heater for my house. My poor AC can't keep up! CPU is at 50C and holding. It idles at 42-44, depending on ambient. I guess if I find the next prime I'll be able to afford the electric bill..

06-05-2002, 02:40 PM	#26
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	Got it... $440.:shrug: __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101

06-05-2002, 04:21 PM	#28
jtroutma Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SLO, CA Posts: 837	Bummer though.... Sounded like a great replacement.. __________________ Athlon64 X2 4200+ @ 2.5Ghz (250FSB x 10) OCZ VX 1GB 4000 @ 250FSB (6-2-2-2 timmings) DFI LANParty nForce4 Ultra-D SCSI Raid 5 x (3) Cheetah 15K HDDs LSI Express 500 (128MB cache) OCZ PowerStream 520W PSU ATI X850XT PE (Stock) DTEK WhiteWater + DTEK Custom Radiator Eheim 1250

06-06-2002, 12:07 AM	#29
Stepback Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Houston Texas Posts: 52	I have been ruuning this thing for a week and the temps have stablized at 37c case/36c cpu. The case temp is wrong as MSI put the case temp sensor right next to the northbridge. The temp in the room is around 24c. These temps are about 6-8 degs better then the old pump I was using. I would like to post the pics I took but can't find the software disk for my camara __________________ Stepback Maintaining today for a better tommorrow.

06-17-2002, 10:07 AM	#31
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	Connections are (as stated earlier) 3/4 ID. __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101

06-17-2002, 10:41 AM	#33
nemaste Cooling Neophyte Join Date: May 2002 Location: CA Posts: 78	sounds interesting. i'm curious if these pumps will be practical in the long term for h2o ppl. if you end up getting an itch to experiment with it, i'd be curious to see if you can easily swap out that stock motor on the Jabsco for a hotter one. it looks like a common 540 size, so a "modified" R/C car motor might work.:shrug: __________________ StrongShockModz

06-05-2002, 04:20 PM	#27
Cyco-Dude Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 836	only $440!?? ill take two!!! hehe...

06-17-2002, 08:53 AM	#30
scopEDog Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 49	Hey Stepback, what fittings are on that pump? They look a bit small

06-17-2002, 10:17 AM	#32
scopEDog Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 49	Thanks bigben2k (sorry i totally missed it)..I would like to try this pump...although the cost is keeping my purchase at "maybe"

06-17-2002, 10:54 AM	#34
Stepback Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Houston Texas Posts: 52	Here is a picture of the pump in action. The elbows are 1/2 brass and the barbs are 3/8 as that is what my becooling jaged edge has. And here is a pic of the top of the res... __________________ Stepback Maintaining today for a better tommorrow. Last edited by Stepback; 06-17-2002 at 11:06 AM.

06-17-2002, 11:22 AM	#35
Stepback Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Houston Texas Posts: 52	Here's a screenshot with wucpuid running and mbm5 dash. Plus procooling in the backgorund (of course!) __________________ Stepback Maintaining today for a better tommorrow.

06-19-2002, 11:40 PM	#36
maskedgeek Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: poop Posts: 145	hey stepback, how much was the pump, you never said, they have this thing at och, but dont buy it there.... im interested in knowing were to find this pump.... for how much.

06-20-2002, 12:13 AM	#37
Stepback Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Houston Texas Posts: 52	You can get it here http://www.go2marine.com/frameset.js...d/51034F/&df=2 or just do a search for the part number (jabsco 59500-0012). __________________ Stepback Maintaining today for a better tommorrow.

07-16-2002, 12:34 PM	#38
awesterink Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 53	Stepback, With the pump mounted in the case, do you notice any sort of hum or vibration when it is running (even the slightest bit)? The hum of my Eheim 1048 pump is seriously amplified by my case, so I'm looking for something as close to silent as possible. Plus a 12V hookup to the PSU is nice Also, what type of reducer would I need to go to 1/2" ID tubing?

07-16-2002, 12:56 PM	#39
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	FYI, it goes for about $100.00 (one hundred). __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101

07-16-2002, 01:11 PM	#40
Sanjuro Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Port Coquitlam, BC Posts: 74	wow thats one expensive little pump.. Its a dc motor driving the impeller magnet right? Wonder how long it will take the brushings to wear out __________________ Nothing to call home about...

07-18-2002, 06:21 AM	#41
Stepback Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Houston Texas Posts: 52	awesterink: You will need 3/4 to 1/2 reducers and the pump is every quiet. I can't hear it at all. While i was building my res and full system I had it screwed to my metal garage door and still couldn't hear it running. I have to a couple fingers on it to make sure it's still on. Sanjuro: Yes. It a DC motor driving a magnetic coupler so the inpeller is in a sealed housing and there are no seals on the motor shaft. The mfg states that the brush life is 2500 hrs. __________________ Stepback Maintaining today for a better tommorrow.

07-18-2002, 07:54 AM	#42
awesterink Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 53	Thanks. But 2500hrs? Wow...$100 for a pump that is rated to last about 100 days....hmmmm. Do you plan to replace the brushes?

07-19-2002, 12:13 AM	#43
Stepback Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Houston Texas Posts: 52	I don't think it will wear out as quickly as the mfg thinks it will. I work as an instrument repair tech at a bio tech company. We have some 12v dc pumps that are rated to last for 1500 hrs. that have been on machines for over 5 years. These machines run almost 24/7/365 and pump some of the nastiest chemicals on the planet. We have more problems with seals going bad in the pump head than the motors burning out. And we just change the seals and reuse the pumps. I would have used one of these pumps for my water cooler but they only have 1/8 fittings and pump 5 to 30 mil a minute depending on the speed of the motor. One other problem with that pump is at full blast it draws 5 amps. __________________ Stepback Maintaining today for a better tommorrow.

07-29-2002, 04:52 PM	#44
nexxo Cooling Savant Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Brimingham, UK Posts: 385	Very useful stuff, Stepback! Just one more question before I rush off to the shop: how hot does the pump run? Can you touch it after a couple of hours? Could you slap a thermistor on it and give ma a ballpark temperature reading? __________________ "There is a thin line between magic and madness"

07-30-2002, 02:13 PM	#45
Wayne Harrow Cooling Neophyte Join Date: May 2002 Location: UK, Dagenham Posts: 42	Aint that just the same as the new overclockers hideout pump? __________________ 226w Tec AthlonXP 1600+ @ 1950Mhz Abit KD7 Crucial 2100 DDR Radeon 8500

07-30-2002, 02:17 PM	#46
Sanjuro Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Port Coquitlam, BC Posts: 74	They look very similiar, I wonder... __________________ Nothing to call home about...

07-30-2002, 02:24 PM	#47
nexxo Cooling Savant Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Brimingham, UK Posts: 385	Yes, they're the same thing. Moreover, the Jabsco 59500-0012 is also known as the Johnson CM10P7-1. __________________ "There is a thin line between magic and madness"

07-30-2002, 02:30 PM	#48
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	Yeah but can you get them any cheaper than $100.00? __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101

07-30-2002, 02:42 PM	#49
nexxo Cooling Savant Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Brimingham, UK Posts: 385	What do you want, blood? Nope, the prices for both makes of this pump are more or less the same: about $93,-- __________________ "There is a thin line between magic and madness"

07-30-2002, 03:15 PM	#50
ECUPirate Hottest Stank of them All Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Washington, DC area Posts: 533	you said temps were about 6-8c lower w/ the new pump... what were you running b4? ....sidenote: It's hotter than hell here.. It's got to be about 100F here, w/ high humidity. Also, I've been running prime95 for a few hours, and so the rad on my PC is acting as a space heater for my house. My poor AC can't keep up! CPU is at 50C and holding. It idles at 42-44, depending on ambient. I guess if I find the next prime I'll be able to afford the electric bill.. __________________ Does a radioactive cat have 18 half lifes? --Kenny my pimpin' rig: ...previously poorly cooled... 486DX-2 66mhz @ 75mhz, 4Mb ram, shared, 256Mb hard drive Onboard VGA, watercooled, of course 16-color monitor, labtec speakers, 28kbs USRobotics modem Windows XP (think about it) Maze 3, DDen GF3 block, Eheim 1250, econoline van HC, 1/2" hose w/ 5/8" fittings Comair 172mm fan Last edited by ECUPirate; 07-30-2002 at 03:17 PM.

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