Which OEM do you least like? - Page 2

tim-may · 06-07-2002, 06:03 PM

sorry all, but im gonna have to go with IBM. they royally f-ed over a lot of people with their 75GXP series drives.

o and w00t for class-action law suits (get my damn 220 bucks back)

iceheart · 06-07-2002, 08:20 PM

My 75GXP is still chugging along nicely after almost 24/7 work for a year now.

tim-may · 06-07-2002, 08:51 PM

a year now huh? i think mine died......within 6 months of when i bought it. it got sent to maylasia, and i got it back a week later, plugged it, and it died AGAIN! 2 weeks later. ibm says theyll replace it with a 60GXP drive but.....those are failing almost as much as the 75GXPs are. so i say screw them until the lawsuit goes through, then ill get myself another nice 120GB maxtor drive and have some fun with the on-board raid on my motherboard.

iceheart · 06-07-2002, 09:03 PM

Also I've recommended lots of my friends to buy IBM drives because of quality, I have daily contact with 5 of them (2 75GXP, 2 60GXP and 1 120GXP) which all have perfect service records (Longest being 8 months and the newest being just above 2 weeks old.).

Joe · 06-07-2002, 09:18 PM

IBM is starting to SUCK

this last week at work I had to RMA 6 IBM workstations that just stopped working out of no where... and we had 2 IBM servers die in the last 2 weeks.

This is the reason I am spearheading Moving Dell into the states DA network and getting IBM out.

IBM's customer support has dissapeared... now its only finger pointing, or pointless arguments.

Brad · 06-07-2002, 10:50 PM

I hate ibm over the hdd thing, they deserve all the votes they get

Vector86 · 06-25-2002, 09:36 PM

i have a packard bell monitor from 1989 that still works PERFECTLY, my vote goes to IBM becuase, while trying to fix an old 1995 aptiva, i noticed that the list price on their website for a new motherboard and processor (supposedly the only parts that fit in this case) was almost $1700 US dollars, not to mention that when i called tech support, they seemed to have forgotten that they made that kind of computer

Joe · 06-25-2002, 11:47 PM

Well I am vote'n for IBM as worst

I am in charge of getting our IBM gear out of the state and replacing them with Dell. So far Dell ROCKS IT HARD compared to IBM!

Cova · 06-26-2002, 03:51 PM

Most of my OEM experience comes with servers as opposed to workstations - and I must say that Dell and Compaq make very nice servers. And I guess I'll be working with HP servers now since they bought Compaq (and we were in a contract with Compaq to only buy their stuff) - but from what I've seen they'll be keeping the Compaq Proliant line - so I like them still.

For worst - I had the bad fortune to have to work on a Packaged Hell once. It only took me an hour and a 1/2 to put a second HD into it. It gets my vote.

DarkEdge · 10-07-2002, 07:34 PM

I believe that 95% of anyone who has worked on or owned a Packard Bell would vote them. I couldn't ****ing stand them. Considering HP and Compaq have always been like brothers even before their merger talks and what not, I don't seperate them. If either one is better then the other, I'd say HP. They have gadgets. I like compaq though, simply because they bring jobs to Houston. Dell, as of late though....sucks.

mfpmax · 10-08-2002, 12:30 AM

Sorta an invalid poll, OEM for what product(s).

For Computers, they all suck, we haven't bought a desktop since the 386 days...except this piece of crap Micron to hold my mom over for awhile.

Sony's CD products suck

Toshiba's CD products I like, got a 12x SCSI thats still kicking.

IBM...hard drives anyone?

Compaq/Packard Bell, none of our products are compatible with any of your hardware or Windows

HP(not personal experience, but i've replaced a few things on a friend's sister's computer...What? Replace everything again!

Dell, dude, you broke the internet server...

Gateway, what is tech support?

I need to become an EE and have a fab in my backyard so I only can complain about my own work.

pHaestus · 10-22-2002, 11:46 AM

My IBM T30 notebook is sweet.

sincerely
-phaestus

BillA · 10-22-2002, 11:54 AM

probably before most,
but you missed the SUPER TURD = Zenith
the lying (computer) inept thieves

Joe · 10-22-2002, 12:03 PM

hey... dont talk shit about my ZDS 8086!

mfpmax · 10-22-2002, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by unregistered
probably before most,
but you missed the SUPER TURD = Zenith
the lying (computer) inept thieves

Didn't miss it...most have chosen to forgot it...

Yo-DUH_87 · 10-22-2002, 02:49 PM

Why are acers and emachines absent from the list? Oh, well, I'll have to throw my vote in for dell (duddddddddde, I'm so not getting a dell...)...

ksw · 10-22-2002, 03:12 PM

dell's accutally THE best when it comes to OEM. at least if you think of their new DImension 8200 series. Now that i call USER-FRIENDLY. but the Optiplex series still suck. really hard. dont forget deep.
at least the come with 2/3 pci places free... :/

Yo-DUH_87 · 10-22-2002, 03:46 PM

The experiences that I've had with dell were back in the "old days," I think that it was a 200 MHz I was repairing for a friend, ugg. I now have the mainboard in a special drawer, waiting for Episode 2, attack of the hammer

They are not so bad now, but the only OEMs I've had contact with in the past while are Acers and E machines (I did work on a HP, but not enough to warrent a "hate rating"). I h8 acers (at least the way they are built), they are so user unfriendly, the case has vampire tendacys, and everything is either screwed, rivited, welded, or glued in! It took me 1.5 hrs to replace a bad heatsink fan (not kidding, also sliced open my hands several times)!!!

E Machines are not all that bad, they just leave something to be desired in the area of preformance, and quality. Already replaced the PSU fan (which was a pain), and completely reworked the system several times. Don't get me wrong, they are nice computers, but I'd rather build my own!

Ok, that is enough ranting for now...

Joe · 10-22-2002, 04:15 PM

Dell is the only option when it comes to servers... I have been burned by IBM about 15 times this year on both workstations and servers... Dell has treated us right, with some killer hardware, cheap prices, awesome support, and overall great represenstation by their company.

( not to meantion their sales reps rock to go out drinking and playing pool with

)

shaft01 · 10-22-2002, 04:21 PM

I voted packard hell......BUT ONLY because the worst machine currently built isnt on the list.......E-Machines.

I am the guy that gets to go fix the issues that arise when cable modem installation techs have problems and cant resolve them...... E-machines really SUCK and account for the largest portion of my headaches.......Note the E stands for ERROR......

mobuis · 10-22-2002, 05:24 PM

compaq sucks:-)

Yo-DUH_87 · 10-22-2002, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe
Dell is the only option when it comes to servers... I have been burned by IBM about 15 times this year on both workstations and servers... Dell has treated us right, with some killer hardware, cheap prices, awesome support, and overall great represenstation by their company.

( not to meantion their sales reps rock to go out drinking and playing pool with )

Dell is a great company to work with, and most of their later computers are great (the earlier ones STINK ROYALY!!), but it is not as l33t as building your own!

ymboc · 10-22-2002, 06:56 PM

Compaq. Short Warranties. Shitty Products.

My Presario 1685 (Laptop!) couldnt even pass 5 minutes of a prime95 torture test. That and I was forced to RMA it within the first year over a shitty voltage converter/battery charger.

When I peered through the open PCMCIA slot I saw a 1mm gap between the ultra-fat-foam-TIM and the processor (k6-2).

Since have tried everything I can to improve the thing but it's still a POS.

-ymboc

Can O' Beans · 10-26-2002, 11:25 PM

I voted for Packard Bell. They're long gone in my area, but the horrid memories still haunt me.

View Poll Results: What OEM do you least like?
Gateway	14	19.44%
Packard Bell	23	31.94%
Dell	4	5.56%
Compaq	19	26.39%
Hewlett Packard	4	5.56%
IBM	6	8.33%
Sony	1	1.39%
Toshiba	1	1.39%
Voters: 72. You may not vote on this poll

06-07-2002, 09:18 PM	#30
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	IBM is starting to SUCK this last week at work I had to RMA 6 IBM workstations that just stopped working out of no where... and we had 2 IBM servers die in the last 2 weeks. This is the reason I am spearheading Moving Dell into the states DA network and getting IBM out. IBM's customer support has dissapeared... now its only finger pointing, or pointless arguments. __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

06-07-2002, 10:50 PM	#31
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	I hate ibm over the hdd thing, they deserve all the votes they get __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

06-25-2002, 11:47 PM	#33
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	Well I am vote'n for IBM as worst I am in charge of getting our IBM gear out of the state and replacing them with Dell. So far Dell ROCKS IT HARD compared to IBM! __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

10-08-2002, 12:30 AM	#36
mfpmax Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Rockledge,FL,US Posts: 731	Sorta an invalid poll, OEM for what product(s). For Computers, they all suck, we haven't bought a desktop since the 386 days...except this piece of crap Micron to hold my mom over for awhile. Sony's CD products suck Toshiba's CD products I like, got a 12x SCSI thats still kicking. IBM...hard drives anyone? Compaq/Packard Bell, none of our products are compatible with any of your hardware or Windows HP(not personal experience, but i've replaced a few things on a friend's sister's computer...What? Replace everything again! Dell, dude, you broke the internet server... Gateway, what is tech support? I need to become an EE and have a fab in my backyard so I only can complain about my own work. __________________ My old and retired watercooling setup. Watercooled K6-2 450 at 600 Also Retired - Watercooling an XP1800@1782MHz

06-07-2002, 06:03 PM	#26
tim-may Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: California Posts: 161	sorry all, but im gonna have to go with IBM. they royally f-ed over a lot of people with their 75GXP series drives. o and w00t for class-action law suits (get my damn 220 bucks back)

06-07-2002, 08:20 PM	#27
iceheart Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Yonder Posts: 318	My 75GXP is still chugging along nicely after almost 24/7 work for a year now.

06-07-2002, 08:51 PM	#28
tim-may Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: California Posts: 161	a year now huh? i think mine died......within 6 months of when i bought it. it got sent to maylasia, and i got it back a week later, plugged it, and it died AGAIN! 2 weeks later. ibm says theyll replace it with a 60GXP drive but.....those are failing almost as much as the 75GXPs are. so i say screw them until the lawsuit goes through, then ill get myself another nice 120GB maxtor drive and have some fun with the on-board raid on my motherboard.

06-07-2002, 09:03 PM	#29
iceheart Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Yonder Posts: 318	Also I've recommended lots of my friends to buy IBM drives because of quality, I have daily contact with 5 of them (2 75GXP, 2 60GXP and 1 120GXP) which all have perfect service records (Longest being 8 months and the newest being just above 2 weeks old.).

06-25-2002, 09:36 PM	#32
Vector86 Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: KANSAS "it's not just cows"! Posts: 211	i have a packard bell monitor from 1989 that still works PERFECTLY, my vote goes to IBM becuase, while trying to fix an old 1995 aptiva, i noticed that the list price on their website for a new motherboard and processor (supposedly the only parts that fit in this case) was almost $1700 US dollars, not to mention that when i called tech support, they seemed to have forgotten that they made that kind of computer

06-26-2002, 03:51 PM	#34
Cova Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 247	Most of my OEM experience comes with servers as opposed to workstations - and I must say that Dell and Compaq make very nice servers. And I guess I'll be working with HP servers now since they bought Compaq (and we were in a contract with Compaq to only buy their stuff) - but from what I've seen they'll be keeping the Compaq Proliant line - so I like them still. For worst - I had the bad fortune to have to work on a Packaged Hell once. It only took me an hour and a 1/2 to put a second HD into it. It gets my vote.

10-07-2002, 07:34 PM	#35
DarkEdge Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Sugar Land, Tx Posts: 176	I believe that 95% of anyone who has worked on or owned a Packard Bell would vote them. I couldn't ****ing stand them. Considering HP and Compaq have always been like brothers even before their merger talks and what not, I don't seperate them. If either one is better then the other, I'd say HP. They have gadgets. I like compaq though, simply because they bring jobs to Houston. Dell, as of late though....sucks.

10-22-2002, 11:46 AM	#37
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	My IBM T30 notebook is sweet. sincerely -phaestus

10-22-2002, 11:54 AM	#38
BillA CoolingWorks Tech Guy Formerly "Unregistered" Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Posts: 2,371.493,106 Posts: 4,440	probably before most, but you missed the SUPER TURD = Zenith the lying (computer) inept thieves

10-22-2002, 12:03 PM	#39
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	hey... dont talk shit about my ZDS 8086! __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

10-22-2002, 02:49 PM	#41
Yo-DUH_87 Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Oregon, USA Posts: 230	Why are acers and emachines absent from the list? Oh, well, I'll have to throw my vote in for dell (duddddddddde, I'm so not getting a dell...)... __________________ Signing out... Yo-DUH_87 If it works, fix it until it's broke! Then, after it's broke, add duct tape! Affordable webhosting!

10-22-2002, 03:12 PM	#42
ksw Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: SWEDEN(cold...) Posts: 195	dell's accutally THE best when it comes to OEM. at least if you think of their new DImension 8200 series. Now that i call USER-FRIENDLY. but the Optiplex series still suck. really hard. dont forget deep. at least the come with 2/3 pci places free... :/ __________________ www.webraced.com <- addicted as hell /me is!

10-22-2002, 03:46 PM	#43
Yo-DUH_87 Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Oregon, USA Posts: 230	The experiences that I've had with dell were back in the "old days," I think that it was a 200 MHz I was repairing for a friend, ugg. I now have the mainboard in a special drawer, waiting for Episode 2, attack of the hammer They are not so bad now, but the only OEMs I've had contact with in the past while are Acers and E machines (I did work on a HP, but not enough to warrent a "hate rating"). I h8 acers (at least the way they are built), they are so user unfriendly, the case has vampire tendacys, and everything is either screwed, rivited, welded, or glued in! It took me 1.5 hrs to replace a bad heatsink fan (not kidding, also sliced open my hands several times)!!! E Machines are not all that bad, they just leave something to be desired in the area of preformance, and quality. Already replaced the PSU fan (which was a pain), and completely reworked the system several times. Don't get me wrong, they are nice computers, but I'd rather build my own! Ok, that is enough ranting for now... __________________ Signing out... Yo-DUH_87 If it works, fix it until it's broke! Then, after it's broke, add duct tape! Affordable webhosting!

10-22-2002, 04:15 PM	#44
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	Dell is the only option when it comes to servers... I have been burned by IBM about 15 times this year on both workstations and servers... Dell has treated us right, with some killer hardware, cheap prices, awesome support, and overall great represenstation by their company. ( not to meantion their sales reps rock to go out drinking and playing pool with ) __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

10-22-2002, 04:21 PM	#45
shaft01 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Georgia Posts: 41	I voted packard hell......BUT ONLY because the worst machine currently built isnt on the list.......E-Machines. I am the guy that gets to go fix the issues that arise when cable modem installation techs have problems and cant resolve them...... E-machines really SUCK and account for the largest portion of my headaches.......Note the E stands for ERROR...... __________________ System: BlackMax See website: webpages.charter.net/mlhg01/

10-22-2002, 05:24 PM	#46
mobuis Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: michigan Posts: 48	compaq sucks:-)

10-22-2002, 06:56 PM	#48
ymboc Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Ottawa Posts: 81	Compaq. Short Warranties. Shitty Products. My Presario 1685 (Laptop!) couldnt even pass 5 minutes of a prime95 torture test. That and I was forced to RMA it within the first year over a shitty voltage converter/battery charger. When I peered through the open PCMCIA slot I saw a 1mm gap between the ultra-fat-foam-TIM and the processor (k6-2). Since have tried everything I can to improve the thing but it's still a POS. -ymboc

10-26-2002, 11:25 PM	#49
Can O' Beans Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Pa - USA Posts: 264	I voted for Packard Bell. They're long gone in my area, but the horrid memories still haunt me.

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