Wanting a White Water Block, Stew?

Sproket · 03-10-2003, 09:33 AM

I have emailed Stew but no answer. It doesnt make sense that
D-Tek doesnt carry them.

I need water cooling, I dont want a TC-4 b/c its not all copper. I need the lowest temp possible with water cooling. Hopefully luck will shine on me this week. Please.!!

Chad in Phoenix, AZ
sproket@prowestfilms.com

Mark Larson · 03-10-2003, 05:27 PM

Copper top shouldn't be the reason you want to look at other blocks... http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/sho...&threadid=6014

Sproket · 03-10-2003, 08:19 PM

I just think like this:
Why take the risk of a Type II alum. top block when you can just get a solid copper like the White Water. I dont care about looks. I just want the lowest temps offered by water.
I think the White Water will give me what I want.

i just Cant purchase it right now. I will wait a couple of weeks and see if the Cather block becomes available.

Blackeagle · 03-11-2003, 03:24 PM

Have you tried at www.jpiperformance.com ? This is the only site in the US that I know of so far to carry the White Water.

Sproket · 03-11-2003, 04:49 PM

Yes I tried JPI and they are sold out. JPI only sells them with there kits. I dont want a kit. Just the block.
Actually Stew can mail one to me but Im trying to get a hold of him.

Thanks for your help though.

Skulemate · 03-11-2003, 06:06 PM

I read over at OCAU that the White Water blocks made by Stew are no more... he's only got a few left, and those are all being sold locally. However, I did hear mention of a US distributor that should be producing the blocks themselves soon enough, so you will likely be able to snag one then.

Cathar · 03-11-2003, 07:04 PM

A lightning strike has taken out the main phone line in our street, so I've only had intermittent net access.

Since you explicitly want an all-copper block I'll make sure to reserve one last one for you. I'll get to your email later today.

hydrogen18 · 03-11-2003, 08:06 PM

My ideas on the top of the block

1) Acrylic, Lexan, Copper(and all alloys of copper, such as brass), and Andoized aluminum(unless the whole block of aluminum) are acceptable for use as the top of a waterblock. They will not corrode easily unless other metals are in the loop(keep in mind the anodized aluminum will not cause corrosion).

2) All tops should be attached with bolts and a liquid sealent or o-ring with ridge. It can also be soldered on.

BrianW · 03-11-2003, 08:18 PM

Ah man Cathar, I emailed you like two weeks ago and you told me you were not selling them anymore? You just do not want me to have one? I promise I will give it a nice home.

Brian

Blackeagle · 03-11-2003, 08:41 PM

I hope that Cathar was paid a fairly good price for his design by who ever it is getting ready to make them. Who ever it is has gotten a proven strong performer that will give them a step up on other commercial block makers.

Wouldn't happen to be JPI would it?

pippin88 · 03-11-2003, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Blackeagle
I hope that Cathar was paid a fairly good price for his design by who ever it is getting ready to make them. Who ever it is has gotten a proven strong performer that will give them a step up on other commercial block makers.

Wouldn't happen to be JPI would it?

From what he has said he has organised to have them made in the US by a machining company. He hasn't sold the design at all AFAIK.

A rough estimate or 2-3 weeks was given, for blocks to begin appearing fro sale in the US.

Cathar · 03-11-2003, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BrianW
Ah man Cathar, I emailed you like two weeks ago and you told me you were not selling them anymore? You just do not want me to have one? I promise I will give it a nice home.

Brian

Sorry Brian, nothing personal. Not making many more. Sproket has been bugging me constantly (no offense) so I relented and will sell him one of the last few which I earmarked for Aussie buyers. You'll be able to buy them within the USA soon though, just not directly through me.

Atragon · 03-11-2003, 11:48 PM

The same design without changes?

Blackeagle · 03-24-2003, 02:53 PM

Anyone heard anything about the WW being released in the US yet?

And does anyone know who in the US will be making & marketing it?

Sproket · 03-24-2003, 03:19 PM

It still seems to be hush hush for right now.

bigben2k · 03-24-2003, 03:28 PM

Home of the LRWW. Obviously, no details yet.

Quote:

March 10th, 2003 - Final Update - We had a few LRWW's in today but they're now sold out. If you blinked, you missed them, it seems.

JPI performance news :shrug:

UnloadeD · 03-24-2003, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cathar
Since you explicitly want an all-copper block I'll make sure to reserve one last one for you. I'll get to your email later today.

Hmmm, seems to imply the US made blocks aren't gonna be all copper. What ya guys think its gonna be? Plexi? Aluminum? Choice of either? Glad I got me an original. I might get me a US one too if they are priced reasonably. I got a few things I'd like to try on them, but don't wanna risk messing up the one I've got, specially now that it might become a collector's item! 8)

peace.
unloaded

jaydee · 03-24-2003, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by UnloadeD
Hmmm, seems to imply the US made blocks aren't gonna be all copper. What ya guys think its gonna be? Plexi? Aluminum? Choice of either? Glad I got me an original. I might get me a US one too if they are priced reasonably. I got a few things I'd like to try on them, but don't wanna risk messing up the one I've got, specially now that it might become a collector's item! 8)

peace.
unloaded

I am sure it will be Anodized Aluminum as everyone seems to be selling out on that.

bigben2k · 03-24-2003, 06:39 PM

A clear top would work well, and not affect performance noticeably. It would also be a nice touch on this top notch block. (LOL, try to say that ten times fast!)

UnloadeD · 03-24-2003, 06:45 PM

Maybe a copper bottom, brass middle and aluminum top? We could run a couple wires from it and do away with CMOS battery! 8P~
Nobody flame me, I'm just having some fun. I gotta say though, I am getting more and more excited about seeing them released. I'm thinking there will be two flavors offered, plexi or aluminum. That seems to be the trend right now. Also it wouldn't suprise me to see copper tops offered down the road a bit, if there is a demand for them. I'm actually looking forward to these more than I was the last few video card and cpu releases. Is it just me or do you guys feel the same?

peace.
unloaded

jaydee · 03-24-2003, 06:52 PM

People whine about the cost and weight of the copper, but it is pretty easy to get around the weight (on the top anyway). The price though isn't, but I am sure people would pay for it. I know I would if I were to buy a block anyway.

Graystar · 03-26-2003, 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jaydee116
People whine about the cost and weight of the copper

I can't possibly image why.

Weight - less than 2 oz.
Cost of Copper - $1.50

03-10-2003, 09:33 AM	#1
Sproket Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 193	Wanting a White Water Block, Stew? I have emailed Stew but no answer. It doesnt make sense that D-Tek doesnt carry them. I need water cooling, I dont want a TC-4 b/c its not all copper. I need the lowest temp possible with water cooling. Hopefully luck will shine on me this week. Please.!! Chad in Phoenix, AZ sproket@prowestfilms.com __________________ NF7-S Bios D1.8 218FSB X 11.5 1700+ DLT3C 0310 @ 2511Mhz TwinMos 2x256 PC3200 BH-5 Albatron TI4800se 310/643 3dmark 15,110 3DMark2001SE Link

03-10-2003, 05:27 PM	#2
Mark Larson Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MN Posts: 67	Copper top shouldn't be the reason you want to look at other blocks... http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/sho...&threadid=6014 __________________ AMD Fanboy.

03-10-2003, 08:19 PM	#3
Sproket Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 193	I just think like this: Why take the risk of a Type II alum. top block when you can just get a solid copper like the White Water. I dont care about looks. I just want the lowest temps offered by water. I think the White Water will give me what I want. i just Cant purchase it right now. I will wait a couple of weeks and see if the Cather block becomes available. __________________ NF7-S Bios D1.8 218FSB X 11.5 1700+ DLT3C 0310 @ 2511Mhz TwinMos 2x256 PC3200 BH-5 Albatron TI4800se 310/643 3dmark 15,110 3DMark2001SE Link

03-11-2003, 04:49 PM	#5
Sproket Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 193	Yes I tried JPI and they are sold out. JPI only sells them with there kits. I dont want a kit. Just the block. Actually Stew can mail one to me but Im trying to get a hold of him. Thanks for your help though. __________________ NF7-S Bios D1.8 218FSB X 11.5 1700+ DLT3C 0310 @ 2511Mhz TwinMos 2x256 PC3200 BH-5 Albatron TI4800se 310/643 3dmark 15,110 3DMark2001SE Link

03-11-2003, 06:06 PM	#6
Skulemate Cooling Savant Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 381	I read over at OCAU that the White Water blocks made by Stew are no more... he's only got a few left, and those are all being sold locally. However, I did hear mention of a US distributor that should be producing the blocks themselves soon enough, so you will likely be able to snag one then. __________________ Michael E. Robbins M.A.Sc. Candidate, University of Toronto 12.1 GHz of AMD's finest (17.7 GHz total) crunching proudly for the AMDMB.com Killer Frogs SETI BOINC: Dual Opteron 246s (Iwill DK8N) \| XP2800+ (Shuttle SN41G2) \| 3x XP2400+ (ASUS A7N266-vm) SETI BOINC: 2x P4 2.8E (ASUS P4R800-vm) \| Crunching 24/7

03-11-2003, 03:24 PM	#4
Blackeagle Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: U.S.A = Michigan Posts: 1,243	Have you tried at www.jpiperformance.com ? This is the only site in the US that I know of so far to carry the White Water.

03-11-2003, 07:04 PM	#7
Cathar Thermophile Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 2,538	A lightning strike has taken out the main phone line in our street, so I've only had intermittent net access. Since you explicitly want an all-copper block I'll make sure to reserve one last one for you. I'll get to your email later today.

03-11-2003, 08:06 PM	#8
hydrogen18 Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: USA Posts: 248	My ideas on the top of the block 1) Acrylic, Lexan, Copper(and all alloys of copper, such as brass), and Andoized aluminum(unless the whole block of aluminum) are acceptable for use as the top of a waterblock. They will not corrode easily unless other metals are in the loop(keep in mind the anodized aluminum will not cause corrosion). 2) All tops should be attached with bolts and a liquid sealent or o-ring with ridge. It can also be soldered on.

03-11-2003, 08:18 PM	#9
BrianW Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Desert City in California Posts: 631	Ah man Cathar, I emailed you like two weeks ago and you told me you were not selling them anymore? You just do not want me to have one? I promise I will give it a nice home. Brian __________________ Water Cooled Inwin Q500 (Dual Rads: Rad1 = DTEK Pro Core \| Rad2 = Blick Ice Estreme, Hydor L30, Dangerden Maze2, Bay Res Typhoon Reservoir, 1/2 " DD Tygon Thick Wall Hose). Flow: Res, Pump, CPU watervlock, Y into both rads, both rads into res independently. Athlon XP 1800+ (@ 1731 - 150mhz fsb.), on a Asus A7N266-c, and a Radeon 9000 *waiting for RMA'd Saphire 9800 ultra from Newegg)

03-11-2003, 08:41 PM	#10
Blackeagle Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: U.S.A = Michigan Posts: 1,243	I hope that Cathar was paid a fairly good price for his design by who ever it is getting ready to make them. Who ever it is has gotten a proven strong performer that will give them a step up on other commercial block makers. Wouldn't happen to be JPI would it?

03-11-2003, 11:48 PM	#13
Atragon Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 8	The same design without changes?

03-24-2003, 02:53 PM	#14
Blackeagle Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: U.S.A = Michigan Posts: 1,243	Anyone heard anything about the WW being released in the US yet? And does anyone know who in the US will be making & marketing it?

03-24-2003, 03:19 PM	#15
Sproket Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 193	It still seems to be hush hush for right now. __________________ NF7-S Bios D1.8 218FSB X 11.5 1700+ DLT3C 0310 @ 2511Mhz TwinMos 2x256 PC3200 BH-5 Albatron TI4800se 310/643 3dmark 15,110 3DMark2001SE Link

03-24-2003, 06:39 PM	#19
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	A clear top would work well, and not affect performance noticeably. It would also be a nice touch on this top notch block. (LOL, try to say that ten times fast!) __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101

03-24-2003, 06:45 PM	#20
UnloadeD Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: MidWest USA Posts: 176	Maybe a copper bottom, brass middle and aluminum top? We could run a couple wires from it and do away with CMOS battery! 8P~ Nobody flame me, I'm just having some fun. I gotta say though, I am getting more and more excited about seeing them released. I'm thinking there will be two flavors offered, plexi or aluminum. That seems to be the trend right now. Also it wouldn't suprise me to see copper tops offered down the road a bit, if there is a demand for them. I'm actually looking forward to these more than I was the last few video card and cpu releases. Is it just me or do you guys feel the same? peace. unloaded

03-24-2003, 06:52 PM	#21
jaydee Put up or Shut Up Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 6,506	People whine about the cost and weight of the copper, but it is pretty easy to get around the weight (on the top anyway). The price though isn't, but I am sure people would pay for it. I know I would if I were to buy a block anyway.

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