seemingly perfect pelt power supply

mkosem · 02-21-2002, 06:34 AM

I was looking at mpja's site this morning when I stumbled upon this power supply. Given the voltage and current ratings this thing looks perfect for pelt setups and is cheap at the same time!!

--Matt

#Rotor · 02-21-2002, 07:07 AM

indeed.... not a bad deal.... add some voltage adjusting abilities and it would be perfect

QazTaz · 02-21-2002, 02:50 PM

aint bad, aint bad...

but I'm using my 600VA transformators instead...

mkosem · 02-21-2002, 05:51 PM

it matches the specs for my 156w pelt from leufken perfectly. Sounds like it's time to whip out the pelt again and get a maze1c1

--Matt

immudium · 02-21-2002, 06:05 PM

Thanks for the link. I'm still looking for some better quality power supplies myself. While that particular one doesn't fit my dual Drift 1.15s (120W) very well, I did find a 24V, 8.5 unit that would fit the bill quite nicely. True, it would take two of these power supplies, one for each peltier, but my alternative is one 24V 20A PS which would cost over $300

Thanks again!

Brad · 02-22-2002, 04:16 AM

I'm sure there would be a Voltage feedback point with a pot somewhere in it

decodeddiesel · 02-22-2002, 11:37 AM

yeah I agree Brad. Good find Matt, though it's a little chunky for an internal mount, it looks like a great deal.

mkosem · 02-24-2002, 04:02 AM

it aught to be perfect for my pelt, the pelt draws 18.5A @ 15.1v while pumping 156w of heat, so that has my bases covered and I should be able to mount it upstairs in my SX1240

--MAtt

mkosem · 03-04-2002, 02:43 PM

well, I got it and it works great. it is made by TDK. it is however quite loud! Hopefully I can figure something out because if the fan doesn't spin the PSU shuts off

--Matt

Brad · 03-04-2002, 08:28 PM

use a larger 80mm, 92mm, 120mm fan to cool it down

mx-6* · 03-05-2002, 05:14 PM

Is it louder than a regular ATX power supply?

Kevin · 03-05-2002, 05:49 PM

Wow! Great link!
-Kev

mkosem · 03-05-2002, 07:10 PM

the link is bogus because they don't sell it anymore.

this fan is way louder than a ATX psu, it is about as loud as a 80mm delta. Actually I wouldn't be surprised if it is a delta.

TDK's distributor for the model of this PSU is sending me a maintenence manual so I know what to change. This PSU costs $152 from the manufacturer!! I got a great deal!

--Matt

herbiv0re · 03-06-2002, 02:15 AM

just got mine today, now im just waiting for my 226w tec to come in. is there a way to make the power supply turn on when the computer turns on?

mkosem · 03-06-2002, 01:49 PM

how can this PSU power a 226w pelt? or did you get a different one. I just have the switch on my UPS turning on and off the power to the system(which turns itself off), pump, and pelt psu. since there's fans on the psu and one inside it I don't forget to turn it off.

--Matt

Brad · 03-06-2002, 02:50 PM

it would be about 5% away from powering a 226w pelt, it could work, but not for long periods of time.

as for powering it on, just use a relay

mkosem · 03-07-2002, 03:15 PM

well, I have the pelt in and stuff. this thing works great!! it maintains 15.05v even with the pelt and fans on it!! I am at 1700mhz right now!

--Matt

mx-6* · 03-07-2002, 04:03 PM

I ordered one yesterday. I'll see how it goes when I get it. Replacing the fan is a must I guess. What is it? 80mm?

I don't know why someone said the link was bogus though. My order went through. :shrug:

mkosem · 03-07-2002, 10:36 PM

yes, it is an 80mm fan. it is not a simple swap out tho. I am unsure of the monitoring technique they use in this thing. The distributor/manufacturer kepco is sending me a maintenence manual so I can find out how to replace it. The fan is very nevessary for this unit in it's factory form tho. do not try to take it out entirely without first replacing the small heatsinks inside with larger ones

I'll let you know when I find out more....

--Matt

Brad · 03-08-2002, 05:09 AM

watercool the psu!

mx-6* · 03-08-2002, 01:10 PM

I was thinking that too.

mkosem · 03-08-2002, 02:11 PM

so am I

--Matt

EMC2 · 03-10-2002, 05:34 PM

As long as you only need 15V max, you can get a lot of very good PSUs for pelt power by using supplies made for HAM radio equipment

If you need more V, the switcher based ones can be Vmodded just like mbs.

airspirit · 07-04-2002, 02:11 PM

Is it possible to run a 16V/24A 226W pelt on this PSU? Wouldn't the pelt just draw less power (around 12.5V/20A or so)? I'm considering trying it, but I don't have much pelt experience ....

airspirit · 07-18-2002, 01:38 PM

The pelt I was referring to above is 15.2V/24A. If I was to run a .188 Ohm/160W resistor inline, would that allow me to run the pelt at 11.44V/18.1A? That is kind of what I was getting at above (without having to do the math ... I'm lazy). I'd really like to make this thing work if it is as beefy as Matt says. Plus, the fan won't add much to the seven fans already in my box.

02-21-2002, 06:34 AM	#1
mkosem Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2001 Location: here Posts: 494	seemingly perfect pelt power supply I was looking at mpja's site this morning when I stumbled upon this power supply. Given the voltage and current ratings this thing looks perfect for pelt setups and is cheap at the same time!! --Matt __________________ If you can't cool it, blow it up!! http://www.mattkosem.com

02-21-2002, 05:51 PM	#4
mkosem Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2001 Location: here Posts: 494	it matches the specs for my 156w pelt from leufken perfectly. Sounds like it's time to whip out the pelt again and get a maze1c1 --Matt __________________ If you can't cool it, blow it up!! http://www.mattkosem.com

02-21-2002, 06:05 PM	#5
immudium Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 13	Thanks for the link Thanks for the link. I'm still looking for some better quality power supplies myself. While that particular one doesn't fit my dual Drift 1.15s (120W) very well, I did find a 24V, 8.5 unit that would fit the bill quite nicely. True, it would take two of these power supplies, one for each peltier, but my alternative is one 24V 20A PS which would cost over $300 Thanks again!

02-22-2002, 04:16 AM	#6
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	I'm sure there would be a Voltage feedback point with a pot somewhere in it __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

02-22-2002, 11:37 AM	#7
decodeddiesel Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: classified Posts: 534	yeah I agree Brad. Good find Matt, though it's a little chunky for an internal mount, it looks like a great deal. __________________ ...i hurt... do me a favor, disconect me... they can re-work me but i'll never be top of the line again ...i'd rather be nothing...

02-21-2002, 07:07 AM	#2
#Rotor Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dione, sector 4s1256 Posts: 852	indeed.... not a bad deal.... add some voltage adjusting abilities and it would be perfect

02-21-2002, 02:50 PM	#3
QazTaz Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: stockholm, sweden Posts: 13	aint bad, aint bad... but I'm using my 600VA transformators instead...

02-24-2002, 04:02 AM	#8
mkosem Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2001 Location: here Posts: 494	it aught to be perfect for my pelt, the pelt draws 18.5A @ 15.1v while pumping 156w of heat, so that has my bases covered and I should be able to mount it upstairs in my SX1240 --MAtt __________________ If you can't cool it, blow it up!! http://www.mattkosem.com

03-04-2002, 02:43 PM	#9
mkosem Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2001 Location: here Posts: 494	well, I got it and it works great. it is made by TDK. it is however quite loud! Hopefully I can figure something out because if the fan doesn't spin the PSU shuts off --Matt __________________ If you can't cool it, blow it up!! http://www.mattkosem.com

03-04-2002, 08:28 PM	#10
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	use a larger 80mm, 92mm, 120mm fan to cool it down __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

03-05-2002, 05:14 PM	#11
mx-6* Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 165	Is it louder than a regular ATX power supply?

03-05-2002, 05:49 PM	#12
Kevin Slacking more than your weird uncle Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: San Diego, CA (UCSD) / Los Angeles, CA (home) Posts: 1,605	Wow! Great link! -Kev __________________ I used to throw hot coffee all over the ass of the horse there, then whip him while he was kickin' at me. Those f***in things are crazy.

03-05-2002, 07:10 PM	#13
mkosem Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2001 Location: here Posts: 494	the link is bogus because they don't sell it anymore. this fan is way louder than a ATX psu, it is about as loud as a 80mm delta. Actually I wouldn't be surprised if it is a delta. TDK's distributor for the model of this PSU is sending me a maintenence manual so I know what to change. This PSU costs $152 from the manufacturer!! I got a great deal! --Matt __________________ If you can't cool it, blow it up!! http://www.mattkosem.com

03-06-2002, 02:15 AM	#14
herbiv0re Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 2	just got mine today, now im just waiting for my 226w tec to come in. is there a way to make the power supply turn on when the computer turns on?

03-06-2002, 01:49 PM	#15
mkosem Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2001 Location: here Posts: 494	how can this PSU power a 226w pelt? or did you get a different one. I just have the switch on my UPS turning on and off the power to the system(which turns itself off), pump, and pelt psu. since there's fans on the psu and one inside it I don't forget to turn it off. --Matt __________________ If you can't cool it, blow it up!! http://www.mattkosem.com

03-06-2002, 02:50 PM	#16
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	it would be about 5% away from powering a 226w pelt, it could work, but not for long periods of time. as for powering it on, just use a relay __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

03-07-2002, 03:15 PM	#17
mkosem Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2001 Location: here Posts: 494	well, I have the pelt in and stuff. this thing works great!! it maintains 15.05v even with the pelt and fans on it!! I am at 1700mhz right now! --Matt __________________ If you can't cool it, blow it up!! http://www.mattkosem.com

03-07-2002, 04:03 PM	#18
mx-6* Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 165	I ordered one yesterday. I'll see how it goes when I get it. Replacing the fan is a must I guess. What is it? 80mm? I don't know why someone said the link was bogus though. My order went through. :shrug:

03-07-2002, 10:36 PM	#19
mkosem Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2001 Location: here Posts: 494	yes, it is an 80mm fan. it is not a simple swap out tho. I am unsure of the monitoring technique they use in this thing. The distributor/manufacturer kepco is sending me a maintenence manual so I can find out how to replace it. The fan is very nevessary for this unit in it's factory form tho. do not try to take it out entirely without first replacing the small heatsinks inside with larger ones I'll let you know when I find out more.... --Matt __________________ If you can't cool it, blow it up!! http://www.mattkosem.com

03-08-2002, 05:09 AM	#20
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	watercool the psu! __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

03-08-2002, 01:10 PM	#21
mx-6* Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 165	I was thinking that too.

03-08-2002, 02:11 PM	#22
mkosem Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2001 Location: here Posts: 494	so am I --Matt __________________ If you can't cool it, blow it up!! http://www.mattkosem.com

03-10-2002, 05:34 PM	#23
EMC2 Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dark Side of the Moon Posts: 365	As long as you only need 15V max, you can get a lot of very good PSUs for pelt power by using supplies made for HAM radio equipment If you need more V, the switcher based ones can be Vmodded just like mbs.

07-04-2002, 02:11 PM	#24
airspirit Been /.'d... have you? Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Moscow, ID Posts: 1,986	Is it possible to run a 16V/24A 226W pelt on this PSU? Wouldn't the pelt just draw less power (around 12.5V/20A or so)? I'm considering trying it, but I don't have much pelt experience ....

07-18-2002, 01:38 PM	#25
airspirit Been /.'d... have you? Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Moscow, ID Posts: 1,986	The pelt I was referring to above is 15.2V/24A. If I was to run a .188 Ohm/160W resistor inline, would that allow me to run the pelt at 11.44V/18.1A? That is kind of what I was getting at above (without having to do the math ... I'm lazy). I'd really like to make this thing work if it is as beefy as Matt says. Plus, the fan won't add much to the seven fans already in my box.

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