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Unread 06-03-2001, 01:22 AM   #1
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ok, next month or hopefully even this month i'll be ordering:

OCWC Copper polyblock
Big Mama radiator

the total including shipping and handling to hong kong is about $107

i'll be getting a 700 liter/hour pump from a local pet store, so i think that should provide enough waterflow, and i'll make my own reservoir.

so what do u guys think of my waterblock and radiator choice?

i would get the dangerden maze 2 and the copper cooling cube, but then its more expensive including shipping and handling.

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Unread 06-03-2001, 03:30 AM   #2
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my choice is as follows....

Senfu Radiator
BeCool waterblock
2 metres tubing
water wetter
acrylic clamp
misc. odds and ends

total cost shipped $110

I will be using my Eheim 1250 pump that can be had for around $70 shipped.

A little excessive, but... i just couldn't help it. Your cooler system will probably be close to mine in performance. I went all out for that extra peace of mind.

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ok, next month or hopefully even this month i'll be ordering:
OCWC Copper polyblock
Big Mama radiator

the total including shipping and handling to hong kong is about $107

i'll be getting a 700 liter/hour pump from a local pet store, so i think that should provide enough waterflow, and i'll make my own reservoir.

so what do u guys think of my waterblock and radiator choice?

i would get the dangerden maze 2 and the copper cooling cube, but then its more expensive including shipping and handling.

thanks.

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Unread 06-03-2001, 03:44 AM   #3
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hehehe

but then i'm trying to get all my parts from one store, cos i don't wanna order from a couple stores cos shipping will kill me cos it cost so much to ship stuff to hong kong.

u got any good links to online stores that sell water cooling stuff?

i got these
www.caseetc.com www.dangerden.com www.overclock-watercool.com www.cool-computers.com www.cpufx.com www.overclockershideout.com www.aquastealth.com

any others?

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Unread 06-03-2001, 11:28 AM   #4
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Yep, http://www.liquidcool.org/main.php
The Senfu is OK as long as you mod it:
- enlarge hose connectors (dremel)
- use 90mm fans instead of provided 80mm ones
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Unread 06-03-2001, 02:51 PM   #5
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yes, definitely gonna dremel the in/out....

Actually changed to the following now.

DangerDen Maze 2 waterblock 3/8" in/out

DangerDen CoolCube Radiator (i like the smaller footprint) Big Momma in good, but UGLY!!!

1.6 - 2.0 metres tubing w/ odds and ends

Still looking for a cheap and QUIET pump.
Any suggestions?

Need a flow rate of 1000liters/h at 1.5 metre head
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Unread 06-03-2001, 04:07 PM   #6
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I got a 1200l/h Seltz pump thats pretty quiet indeed (as long as bubbles are out). Here is the exact reference:
Hydor Seltz L30 II
HMax 1.95m QMax 1200 l/h 27W
price tag around €55 or $60
It's a mag drive, and can work immersed or inline as well.
I found mine at a local aquarium shop.
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Unread 06-03-2001, 04:08 PM   #7
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Thanks for the recommendation, Surefoot!

Can anyone offer info on the following pumps

Eheim 1250
Eugene Danner model 7
Dolphin DP560
Rio 3100

Basically which one is the quietest one, and will deliver a good flow at a 2metre head.
Is the Seltz comparable in performance?


update on the radiator....

going to go and make a copper cooling tower and use that instead of the radiator.

this sounds like a better idea....
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Unread 06-04-2001, 09:08 AM   #8
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Why do you need such a powerful pump? I have a Eheim 1048 (600l/h) and it's plenty powerful enough... Don't forget bigger pumps put out more noise and heat not to mention they're just bigger so need a bigger space for mounting.
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The Seltz and the Eiheim 1250 are rather similar in performance. The Eheim is more expensive though, because it's a well know trade mark amongst aquarium fans.
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Why do you need such a powerful pump? I have a Eheim 1048 (600l/h) and it's plenty powerful enough... Don't forget bigger pumps put out more noise and heat not to mention they're just bigger so need a bigger space for mounting.
I find that even though the pumps are rated at a certain LpH, the actual flow could be only 10% of their claim depending on tubing length, etc. Through testing, I found that one with a flow of around 1200L/H works well - that's roughly 5GPM. In actuality, that's around 1GPM with my 2m of tubing....
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Unread 06-06-2001, 03:37 AM   #11
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well the quoted is with maybe 6" of tubing if that and no head of water. There's actually a graph on my Eheim box that shows how the flowrate drops off as you put more head on the system.generally it's not too bad till you get over about 2 feet then things start to drop off badly. Anyway the original point is, don;t you find that a larger pump doesn't actually make much difference due to diminishing returns?
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well the quoted is with maybe 6" of tubing if that and no head of water. There's actually a graph on my Eheim box that shows how the flowrate drops off as you put more head on the system.generally it's not too bad till you get over about 2 feet then things start to drop off badly. Anyway the original point is, don;t you find that a larger pump doesn't actually make much difference due to diminishing returns?

Personally, I have found that the pumps rated to 1000L/H yield the best results. After that, it really doesn't matter. I will be using peltiers in my system, and probably an OC 1.5Ghz Tbird, so the flow will have to be very good in my system.
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Basically which one is the quietest one
I'd like to know as well.
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